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All I see is a bunch of Socialists hanging out on this page. For half price, I'll buy the Behringer stuff all day long. It's actually a feather in Uli's cap that his legal team keeps figuring out ways to out-perform the marketplace. Capitalism isn't for the faint of heart. Get better lawyers or move back home and cry to your mamas and I'll go buy another half price Eurotrash module.
Two powerful modules all together in a drone/industrial/post apocalyptic ambiance. Quadrax and Plaits.
-- -ADR-
I literally just updated to firmware v1.2 on Plaits Friday night and have been extensively playing with the Orange settings...great, great stuff.
Thanks for sharing your video explorations! :)
-- Jukeshoe
awesome stuff,i tried updating to last firmware playing from my laptops headphone out into plaits,but it failed,have to try from my phone maybe
-- Broken-Form
It took me about 10-15 tries to get it to work, it was a bit of a hassle, but well worth it!
It really wants you to dial the "gain" in to the 2-3 LED range, anything above is too loud and will give you the red lights. Anything below is too quiet and the signal doesn't seem to transfer.
I ended up switching from one laptop to another, and while dialing in the gain settings, finally got it to go thru.
Keep trying! :)
Detailed instructions under 'Firmware Update Procedure' can be found here.
Note: it says to start with the dial at 12 oclock, but if the gain's too low, it really wants you to start it at a higher level, or at least that's how I got it to eventually work. If you try to start it and then up the gain, it doesn't seem to work. I'd start at 12 and if that doesn't do the trick, then try initiating the sequence with the dial in a more clockwise position. :)
โYou must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.โ
โ Friedrich Nietzsche
If you want to process external sounds, I would recommend an input module that includes an envelope follower (so that the incoming sound also produces a control voltage that triggers other things in the system). Doepfer makes an inexpensive one, but I didn't care for that one, so I use a Future Sound Systems TG5 which is killer. I do love the Doepfer spring reverb though. In fact, I recently weighed the pros and cons of the Erica, Intellijel, and Doepfer spring reverbs, and decided that the Doepfer was the best option for me. Finally, you may want to check out the Soma Lyra FX module for deep, dark delays. Seems like it might be valuable for the sounds you are trying to make.
Have fun and good luck.
-- farkas
Checkt out the TG5, looks realy interesting but don't know if i am willing to pay that price for an input....now. Will put it aside as a possible future purchase....
Yes, I usually have the Doepfer spring reverb feedback output patched to a VCA or low pass gate and then into a delay and/or filter. Controlled feedback is so fun.
Let us know how it goes once you start adding some modules.
-- farkas
You are most welcome, as the unique person she is, Emilie thrown a stone on the water when offering a last update while closing her business, and yes, what an update!
Yes, I usually have the Doepfer spring reverb feedback output patched to a VCA or low pass gate and then into a delay and/or filter. Controlled feedback is so fun.
Let us know how it goes once you start adding some modules.
If you want to process external sounds, I would recommend an input module that includes an envelope follower (so that the incoming sound also produces a control voltage that triggers other things in the system). Doepfer makes an inexpensive one, but I didn't care for that one, so I use a Future Sound Systems TG5 which is killer. I do love the Doepfer spring reverb though. In fact, I recently weighed the pros and cons of the Erica, Intellijel, and Doepfer spring reverbs, and decided that the Doepfer was the best option for me. Finally, you may want to check out the Soma Lyra FX module for deep, dark delays. Seems like it might be valuable for the sounds you are trying to make.
Have fun and good luck.
-- farkas
Thanks Farkas, I wil have a look at the other spring reverb units. I realy love to use them as a feedback soundsource. The idea to have the input sounds as triggers sounds very interesting! Hahaha I played with the Soma Lyra a while ago and almost bought one, I realy loved it but decided to save my gear budget for my modular built and now you tell me that I can have the Lyra effects in my modular! these are the tips I am looking for๐ฅณ.
If you want to process external sounds, I would recommend an input module that includes an envelope follower (so that the incoming sound also produces a control voltage that triggers other things in the system). Doepfer makes an inexpensive one, but I didn't care for that one, so I use a Future Sound Systems TG5 which is killer. I do love the Doepfer spring reverb though. In fact, I recently weighed the pros and cons of the Erica, Intellijel, and Doepfer spring reverbs, and decided that the Doepfer was the best option for me. Finally, you may want to check out the Soma Lyra FX module for deep, dark delays. Seems like it might be valuable for the sounds you are trying to make.
Have fun and good luck.
Could anybody with the module let me know: Does the module only take a regular clock input or can it subdivide irregular rhythms? As in, output every 2/3/4... step of a Euclidean rhythm
Do I dare, o why not?! I like black panels and I like black synthesizers. I have trouble with the silver and white panels gives me the feeling that I am in a hospital. Uhm ok well, my two cent's.
I do also have the ADE-50 which usually leaves me with plenty of vcas...or at least it hasn't been a problem yet.
Bah, my too casual a look blended the ADE-50 with the Maths, totally missed it. Cheers.
-- FredFoxtrott
It's all good, friend, thanks for taking a look and for the listen! :)
What a lovely little system! I enjoyed the low end of your patch a lot. The Source of Uncertainty will be a lot of fun to patch with maths and the 0-ctrl for sure.
-- zuggamasta
I appreciate the kinds words!
The SoU has been a lot of fun so far, it really kicks things into high gear. :)
โYou must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.โ
โ Friedrich Nietzsche
They look cool... could be pretty cheap to make a small run... not sure how much work it would be to polish the code a bit... or port something... but it all looks to be there and more or less ready to go.
Any thoughts, opinions, interests?
Currently I make dark ambient drone music in the style of Lustmord, Beyond sensory experience, Desiderii Marginis, etc... I use guitar pedals, feedback mixing, tape loops, op1, future retro777 and some selfmade electric acoustic instruments. Now I would like to dip my toe into the (Eurorack) modular world, I have a modest understanding of synth structures but am a complete newbie when it comes to modular. A few years ago I played around with an already patched up Erica Synths modular system and I loved it! Now I would like to build my own system, watched a lot of you-tube video's but got a little overwhelmed by all the choices. Can somebody help me with a good selection of modules for the following:
-Deep, dark and noisy organic evolving structures.
-Proces external sounds.
-I would love a mean spring reverb tank.
-I don't like displays and menu diving.
-I have a start budget of 2500,- (for modules) I already own a 2 x 104HP case with power supply.
It's always crazy for me to hear such full sets and arrangements on modular, as I first connect modular with techno and experimental music.
Super nice track! And the dancing Data display is always great to look at.
-- zuggamasta
ha ha ! yes seeing things on DATA is great ! it also helps when shaping the sounds ! here the arrangement is mainly a "sequencer" approach ! Eloquencer really helps ๐
What a lovely little system! I enjoyed the low end of your patch a lot. The Source of Uncertainty will be a lot of fun to patch with maths and the 0-ctrl for sure.
I noticed you have Intellijel (love them) Quad VCA, which has great additional features of boosts, individual attenuator pots, etc, WMD makes a real interesting Triple Bi-polar VCA. I don't think you need more VCAs like that. Maybe not as simple as the A-130-8v from Doepfer, but just some extra VCAs that allow you to take advantage of all the power you already have. Oh and along with those VCAs some LFOs, maybe throw an รธchd in there :)
-- FredFoxtrott
I do also have the ADE-50 which usually leaves me with plenty of vcas...or at least it hasn't been a problem yet.
I do really like the idea of the รธchd, that's a great recommendation for a module of which I was unaware, and I do most often find myself wishing for another dixie (for an lfo source) independent of the dixie itself (rather than just multed or stackcabled). If that makes sense.
Great food for thought. Appreciate the feedback!
โYou must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.โ
โ Friedrich Nietzsche
I noticed you have Intellijel (love them) Quad VCA, which has great additional features of boosts, individual attenuator pots, etc, WMD makes a real interesting Triple Bi-polar VCA. I don't think you need more VCAs like that. Maybe not as simple as the A-130-8v from Doepfer, but just some extra VCAs that allow you to take advantage of all the power you already have. Oh and along with those VCAs some LFOs, maybe throw an รธchd in there :)
imho this is actually a nice little rack. If you are just beginning you have all you need VCOs, VCFs, VCA, a sequencer, and some FX. You will of course grow into your own way of using them together and you'll get more stuff soon enough. I suggest as you do to get more simple VCAs and proper ADSRs. Maths is great in a pinch, but good ADSRs open up many new paths for modulation. Can't wait to hear more!
-- FredFoxtrott
Thanks for listening and I appreciate the advice!
By more simple VCAs, do you mean non-cascading? Not sure I follow...
ADSR advice, on the other hand, understood and noted! Thank you, again! :)
โYou must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.โ
โ Friedrich Nietzsche
imho this is actually a nice little rack. If you are just beginning you have all you need VCOs, VCFs, VCA, a sequencer, and some FX. You will of course grow into your own way of using them together and you'll get more stuff soon enough. I suggest as you do to get more simple VCAs and proper ADSRs. Maths is great in a pinch, but good ADSRs open up many new paths for modulation. Can't wait to hear more!
There we go then, so its the BD-Z's fault then ;-)
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
Constructive criticism and feedback always welcome, especially on technical issues!
Thanks to the community for all the help on the rack layout so that I could get to this point. Couldn't have done it without out you (well, I could've but it would've been far more painful, lol!)...:)
โYou must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.โ
โ Friedrich Nietzsche
Which custom FW is required for the model you descibed?
-- SimonSays
The official Mutable Instruments site that still hosts manuals / docs and original firmwares has a list of alternative third party firmwares available for each module.
The alternate Marbles FW is called Resurrection, and it has the "hidden" t mode available. The firmware has a host of other upgrades and some of the stuff available is quite complex. I haven't yet dabbled into it, but it's something I'm planning to try on my Marbles.
Sadly Mutable Instruments closed shop so a clone is your best bet. Good luck with your modular journey!