So I'm interested in the MI Clouds, but I don't have a modular system, nor do I really have interest in anything else.

So what's the minimum setup that I need to use just Clouds?


Could e.g. this power the Clouds:

https://www.rawvoltage.wien/eurorack-gehause/doepfer-a-100mc-mini-case-schwarz


Could e.g. this power the Clouds:

https://www.rawvoltage.wien/eurorack-gehause/doepfer-a-100mc-mini-case-schwarz
-- soundmodel

Yes it can and does.
What are you going to feed into it?


Could e.g. this power the Clouds:

https://www.rawvoltage.wien/eurorack-gehause/doepfer-a-100mc-mini-case-schwarz
-- soundmodel

Yes it can and does.
What are you going to feed into it?

-- wiggler55550

I'm going to connect it to my sound card and run stuff from my computer through it.


How will you handle the difference of voltage levels between your soundcard and your modular?


How will you handle the difference of voltage levels between your soundcard and your modular?

-- wiggler55550

I don't know.

Perhaps I need to buy some module to do this.


I found:

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/xaoc-devices-sewastopol

But I wonder if there are other modules that would do what I need.


It seems that Intellijel has Audio Interface II, but ladik has even more affordable modules:

http://ladik.ladik.eu/?page_id=1148

and

http://ladik.ladik.eu/?page_id=1157


Right, Ladik has excellent value for the money. Rather than investing in a specialized interface module (ALM S.B.G for example) you could get away with getting a pre-amp (A-510, A-520 , A-525 ) for input from computer to modular and a mixer (M-110, M-120, A-530) for attenuating from modular to computer level. BTW, no affiliation with Ladik here, I'm just a satisfied user. There are many alternatives. Note that this will be useful for most any external input, hi-fi, walkman, phone, whatever. And you will need a set of matching cables.

By know you are suspecting that just making Clouds work costs as much as the module itself. And oc you're right. On the other hand nothing of that is lost once you decide to expand ;-)


I was wondering, do I really need to purchase some "boutique" eurorack module to do the 5v to line conversion.
And could I perhaps get some normal audio mixer and use some adapters on it?


There's also pretty affordable solution from Doepfer:

The A-119 Ext. In. as input (note the input there is stereo):

https://images.musicstore.de/images/1600/doepfer-a-119-ext-input-envelope-follower1SYN0003615-000.jpg

and A-139-2 as the output (this is also stereo):

http://www.schneidersladen.de/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/-/a-139-2_front.jpg


A-119 is mono: "The pre-amp has two inputs: an unbalanced input for line level signals, with a gain factor of from 0 to 20, and a balanced input with a gain factor of from 0 to 500, for insertion of low level signals, for instance from a microphone or electric guitar"

A-139-2 is a headphone amplifier. You need to bring down the level going into the computer.


A-119 is mono: "The pre-amp has two inputs: an unbalanced input for line level signals, with a gain factor of from 0 to 20, and a balanced input with a gain factor of from 0 to 500, for insertion of low level signals, for instance from a microphone or electric guitar"

On p. 4 in the manual it says that:

Symm. In
The 6.3 mm stereo full-size jack socket " is the
A-119’s balanced input, for low level signals such as
from a microphone, electric guitar, and so on.

A-139-2 is a headphone amplifier. You need to bring down the level going into the computer.
-- wiggler55550

I thought one needed to amplify the output signal. I wonder if there's some other Doepfer module that can handle the output.


Of course one could get something else for the output module:

e.g.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1198520-REG/pittsburghpms2017outsstereoheadphone.html


I was wondering, do I really need to purchase some "boutique" eurorack module to do the 5v to line conversion.
And could I perhaps get some normal audio mixer and use some adapters on it?
-- soundmodel

Neither Ladik nor Doepfer are "boutique"; they are at the lower end as far as pricing.
I guess you could use a mixer with a -20 db pad on the input.

Know someone with some electronics knowledge?


Forget about headphone amps. Your modular level is already way too high; it will clip the input on your sound card. There is no point in making it even louder, right?


I was wondering, do I really need to purchase some "boutique" eurorack module to do the 5v to line conversion.
And could I perhaps get some normal audio mixer and use some adapters on it?
-- soundmodel

Neither Ladik nor Doepfer are "boutique"; they are at the lower end as far as pricing.
I guess you could use a mixer with a -20 db pad on the input.

Know someone with some electronics knowledge?

-- wiggler55550

They are "boutique" in the sense that I don't see them as useful in other than eurorack modulars.
Using a general mixer would be more "generic". Allowing one to use "general purpose" hardware, rather than specialized.
I don't think the eurorack modules really do anything special, they just do the attenuating accurately, precisely to the needs of the hardware.


Here are some suggestions:

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=51415&highlight=output

They note that one can use some of the Doepfer modules such as the A-134 Pan for creating the output.

They also say that A119 is low-quality.


Well. If anything modular seems too much trouble, why bother at all.
Go for software.


For better input they suggest:

http://www.circuitabbey.com/Gozinta.html

I still think it would be easiest to buy the Intellijel Audio Interface, but
it's rather expensive at 249€.


Well. If anything modular seems too much trouble, why bother at all.
Go for software.
-- wiggler55550

Do you think Crusher has similarities with Clouds?

I've used Crusher, but I haven't used Clouds.

Crusher is rather difficult to use though.


I've used Crusher, but I haven't used Clouds.

Crusher is rather difficult to use though.
-- soundmodel

I suggest trying your hand on a Clouds before you do anything else.


Wonder if something like this could be used for the I/O:

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/sputnik-modular-valve-multiplier


It would be useful if one could use some other module for either the input or the output.
Like some other effect such as compressor or distortion.

Then it would serve multiple purposes, rather than just input/output.


This could also work:

http://pittsburghmodular.com/lifeforms-system-interface/