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OK...I think this might work better. Case is an Erica Aluminum Travel Case, 2 x 104 hp, fully powered, and I checked it against typical ATA carryon restrictions and it fits perfectly. Here we go:

There are definitely some differences here. First up, I kept the ES-8, but then combined the clocking and logic with an Intellijel Plog. Turing Machine was eliminated in favor of just the Permutation, and the Wogglebug was changed to Make Noise's current version, which saved a few hp. ANA is still in place, but the Maths was changed out in favor of a pair of Doepfer A 171-2 VC Slope gens...which, basically, gives you the same functionality as a Maths, but saves another 4 hp.

Added a pair of Erica PICO EGs, then the oscillators were totally changed in favor of a Mutable Plaits (the revised version of the Braids) and a Doepfer A-111-4 Quad VCO, which gives you your 'drone bank', but also allows for CV control over all four VCOs in various useful ways, as well as submixing down to a single output. Two Erica PICO VCFs were added: a Polivoks state-variable and a regular 4-pole LPF.

Bottom row starts with a Konstant Labs bus indicator in 1 hp. There was a single hp space, and...believe me...having indicator pilots on your bus voltages is very useful, especially in a travel rig that sees a lot of moving around. Drums: kept the Tea Kick and Plonk, but went with a pair of Moffenzeef Dial-Ups...glitch-based percussives...and a 2 hp Pluck, which gives you a Karplus-Strong modeled percussive/plucked-string voice. Added a Bastl ABC to submix drums down to one or two voices as needed. Also, the Tea Kick was switched to a metal plate version; wood's nice in the studio, but you need to keep durability in mind here if this is going to be used on gigs.

Rene mk2 was retained. Then, there's a mono-in, stereo-out digital effects unit, which I chose to tandem up with the same AUX send capabilities on the Qu-bit Mixology. This stereo mixer gives you VCA control over levels, panning, and AUX send levels across four inputs. Last, there's an Erica PICO OUT, which drops your synth level audio down to line level via a stereo 3.5mm TRS jack.

I think this should fit the bill. It interfaces directly with Ableton via either Silent Way (PC or Mac) or Volta (Mac). Everything is very straightforward, very controllable, which you want if you're also working on a live instrument at the same time. As for multiples, get several in-line multiple widgets instead of having them in-panel...this also saves space. And lastly, this was all checked against Perfect Circuit's catalog; even if they don't have something in stock, you can still purchase it while there and PC will ship the module to you when it's in stock.

Good luck!
-- Lugia

Thanks for your advice dear LUGIA. Have a wonderful time. Peace&Light:-)

1 get a 104hp 6u rack - maybe tiptop mantis - but check with the airline that the dimensions are good to go - I know they are in the eu, but not sure elsewhere - and remember to pick up the case - it's cheap and poorly built but will get you going

2 find an actual store near where you want to go - one or all of these 3

Analogue Haven (Los Angeles, CA)
http://analoguehaven.com

Big City Music (Los Angeles, CA)
http://bigcitymusic.com/index.php?mainpage=index&cPath=118

Boutique Pedal NYC (San Diego, CA)
http://www.boutiquepedalnyc.us/eurorack-modular/

and check what they actually have in stock - probably not a lot of time to order things in if they don;'t have them

3 some of the modules you have in the rack are not easily available anyway - so that makes things a bit easier - giekses nodrums may not be available (think he only sells from his own site, but may be wrong), snazzy dronebank - and the maths you have there is the old version - so i'd ditch all those and

4 you probably don't need both the turing machine (if you could find a built one) and permutations just get marbles!!

4 I'd really look at kinks - it's really useful in 4 hp - the same for disting - which even has a pitch follower and a tuner, both of which maybe useful

-- JimHowell1970

THANK YOU SO SO MUCH DEAR JIM. HAVE A WONDERFUL WEEK-END.

No, actually, this makes a lot of sense, particularly if you retain the Clouds. Selling that would sort of cripple the idea that seems to be going on here.

Flame has a couple of things worth looking at for those purposes...both use manual controllers with internal sequencers to store controller actions. EMW, also, has a couple of devices: a pot-action single channel recorder plus a gesture recorder that uses something akin to Roland's D-Beam controller. If they're still around/available, those might be worth checking out.

OK...I think this might work better. Case is an Erica Aluminum Travel Case, 2 x 104 hp, fully powered, and I checked it against typical ATA carryon restrictions and it fits perfectly. Here we go:

There are definitely some differences here. First up, I kept the ES-8, but then combined the clocking and logic with an Intellijel Plog. Turing Machine was eliminated in favor of just the Permutation, and the Wogglebug was changed to Make Noise's current version, which saved a few hp. ANA is still in place, but the Maths was changed out in favor of a pair of Doepfer A 171-2 VC Slope gens...which, basically, gives you the same functionality as a Maths, but saves another 4 hp.

Added a pair of Erica PICO EGs, then the oscillators were totally changed in favor of a Mutable Plaits (the revised version of the Braids) and a Doepfer A-111-4 Quad VCO, which gives you your 'drone bank', but also allows for CV control over all four VCOs in various useful ways, as well as submixing down to a single output. Two Erica PICO VCFs were added: a Polivoks state-variable and a regular 4-pole LPF.

Bottom row starts with a Konstant Labs bus indicator in 1 hp. There was a single hp space, and...believe me...having indicator pilots on your bus voltages is very useful, especially in a travel rig that sees a lot of moving around. Drums: kept the Tea Kick and Plonk, but went with a pair of Moffenzeef Dial-Ups...glitch-based percussives...and a 2 hp Pluck, which gives you a Karplus-Strong modeled percussive/plucked-string voice. Added a Bastl ABC to submix drums down to one or two voices as needed. Also, the Tea Kick was switched to a metal plate version; wood's nice in the studio, but you need to keep durability in mind here if this is going to be used on gigs.

Rene mk2 was retained. Then, there's a mono-in, stereo-out digital effects unit, which I chose to tandem up with the same AUX send capabilities on the Qu-bit Mixology. This stereo mixer gives you VCA control over levels, panning, and AUX send levels across four inputs. Last, there's an Erica PICO OUT, which drops your synth level audio down to line level via a stereo 3.5mm TRS jack.

I think this should fit the bill. It interfaces directly with Ableton via either Silent Way (PC or Mac) or Volta (Mac). Everything is very straightforward, very controllable, which you want if you're also working on a live instrument at the same time. As for multiples, get several in-line multiple widgets instead of having them in-panel...this also saves space. And lastly, this was all checked against Perfect Circuit's catalog; even if they don't have something in stock, you can still purchase it while there and PC will ship the module to you when it's in stock.

Good luck!

Yeah, definitely a bad thing, since VCAs are what's used to control amplitude levels. Exponential VCAs tend to be used with audio signals, while linears work well for both audio and CVs, although to process CVs the VCA has to be DC-coupled. AC-coupled VCAs are only for use with audio signals. VCAs are one of the essential parts, basically.

Here's an idea: swap out the A-138 mixer for a Bubblesound VCA4p. This fits in the same space, but it gives you four VCAs, switchable between linear and exponential, with mixing capabilities plus the ability to use the VCAs independently of the mix function. Since you have a minimal amount of audio paths here, you could jumper this to be a two-input mixer on VCAs 3/4 and have VCAs 1/2 set up as independent VCAs for processing CVs. That way, you retain your mixing function AND get VCA control over CV modulation.

1 get a 104hp 6u rack - maybe tiptop mantis - but check with the airline that the dimensions are good to go - I know they are in the eu, but not sure elsewhere - and remember to pick up the case - it's cheap and poorly built but will get you going

2 find an actual store near where you want to go - one or all of these 3

Analogue Haven (Los Angeles, CA)
http://analoguehaven.com

Big City Music (Los Angeles, CA)
http://bigcitymusic.com/index.php?mainpage=index&cPath=118

Boutique Pedal NYC (San Diego, CA)
http://www.boutiquepedalnyc.us/eurorack-modular/

and check what they actually have in stock - probably not a lot of time to order things in if they don;'t have them

3 some of the modules you have in the rack are not easily available anyway - so that makes things a bit easier - giekses nodrums may not be available (think he only sells from his own site, but may be wrong), snazzy dronebank - and the maths you have there is the old version - so i'd ditch all those and

4 you probably don't need both the turing machine (if you could find a built one) and permutations just get marbles!!

4 I'd really look at kinks - it's really useful in 4 hp - the same for disting - which even has a pitch follower and a tuner, both of which maybe useful

Hello! I had an idea back in July for something smaller, but after months spent with my Pittsburgh Lifeforms 101 system I feel like I have a somewhat better sense of what I'm hoping to do, but with plenty I'm unsure about.

I'm looking to create big droney soundscapes and some melodic lines -- not leads as much as semi-random lines that could augment a larger piece of music strung together in a DAW. Both would have plenty of modulation and movement options, ideally.

I'm excited by the Cold Mac and Vector Space, but not sure how well they'd play together. And I'm not sure if I'm over/underdoing certain things, like if certain modulation sources are redundant or if I'm missing some type of module that this system is screaming out for.

I own the Wogglebug, o_C, the uVCA, and Clouds (which I'm considering selling). This is planned for the Intellijel 7u case.

Let me know if I totally whiffed here. Thanks!

Hello!

Im brand new to the modular world. Big into rhythmic stuff and drum machines. I was going to buy a jomox alpha base, but when i went to a shop to demo one it was already sold, so i was shown some modular stuff instead. Long story short, I decided to go for a 'hybrid' setup where i would control the rig from a digitakt. Here is the rack I ordered:

still waiting on the expert sleepers stuff, plonk and plaits to arrive. I have a doepfer dark energy which I've been using with my digitakt to control the BIA for now. Already really enjoying the workflow, and can see how the fh-2 along with the other sound sources should make this really fun. However, one thing thats kind of a bummer which Ive experienced before when controlling gear with the digitakt is that when recording automation of any type of performance controls like pb or mod wheel, it ends up sounding "step laddery" as the envelope recorded can only be as smooth as the 16 steps permits. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this or if theres some nifty workaround!
So long term goal is to get another 84hp skiff box, and put all the "controllery" type stuff in that box, with the other dedicated to percussive type stuff. So im wondering whats the best way to have smooth recorded automation?
I was looking at the planar2 and the voltage block
Any thoughts on one of getting one of theses or something else? both :D ?

Thanks for any help with this. All feedback appeciated!

The important points for me are the following:
1) Ths rack must travel by air as hand luggage. Now it's big!
2) Everything must dialogue with ABLETON.
What do you advise me to do?
What do I take from the rack?

Drone (like Indian classical music) and the possibilities to create rhythmic structures are very complex with the sound of my trumpet: https://www.youtube.com/watch? v = BJfiOtY31Xs & feature = youtu.be

I would like to buy this rack in Santa Monica, California.
I'll be in L.A. from 4th to 20th October.

Please, let me know what You think.

Thank you so much guys.

Have a wonderful time.

This is the new version of my rack:

The important points for me are the following:
1) Ths rack must travel by air as hand luggage. Now it's big!
2) Everything must dialogue with ABLETON.
What do you advise me to do?
What do I take from the rack?

Drone (like Indian classical music) and the possibilities to create rhythmic structures are very complex with the sound of my trumpet: https://www.youtube.com/watch? v = BJfiOtY31Xs & feature = youtu.be

Thank you so much guys.

I would like to buy this rack in Santa Monica, California.
I'll be in L.A. from 4th to 20th October.

Have a wonderful time.

I think you've potentially outgrown your cab. This is a decent array of modules, but to do some stranger timing actions, you'll need more space for more modules that can really make that hum. Ronin1973's suggestion is a good one, one I'd suggest tandemming with this: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/joranalogue-audio-design-compare-2 as well as some additional logic, Ladik's probabalistic skipper as well as their gate/trigger delay. The Dual Window Comparator I listed the link to will allow you to extract repeating/semi-repeating gate/trig pulses from modulation curves, such as ones from the Maths and/or Wogglebug (I also assume you have these already, since those are older versions of MakeNoise's current ones), and then you can use those alongside the Euclidean patterns and logic to generate extremely complex gate/trig patterns, potentially non-repeating yet suitably metrical.

Also, if you don't have these modules already, consider changing the MIDI interface to an Expert Sleepers ES-8, which will allow you to run software such as Silent Way or Volta so that you can integrate computer-generated CV/gates using complex software functions from something such as Max, pd, etc along with the analog functions in the modular.

One last module to investigate might be the Mystic Circuits ANA, which is an arithmetical function module that acts on/transforms incoming CVs into new derived functions. Combining this with the Rene and, say, the Wogglebug would result in some interestingly-complex CV behavior.
-- Lugia

Very very interesting. Thank you so much dear Lugia. I'm working on it. Have a beautiful day!

Look up Euclidean Rhythm modules. That's great for getting "strange" rhythms going. You might be able to squeeze something in if you go with a smaller clock generator.
-- Ronin1973

Thank you so mucg dear Ronin 1973. Now I start working on your directions. Have a wonderful time.

Hi Lugia, I'm here again. Can you please tell me if there is something wrong with the following configuration? I decided to keep outside the case any sequencer. Don't have space for a vca. Is that a bad thing? Thank you again for your help!

I think you've potentially outgrown your cab. This is a decent array of modules, but to do some stranger timing actions, you'll need more space for more modules that can really make that hum. Ronin1973's suggestion is a good one, one I'd suggest tandemming with this: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/joranalogue-audio-design-compare-2 as well as some additional logic, Ladik's probabalistic skipper as well as their gate/trigger delay. The Dual Window Comparator I listed the link to will allow you to extract repeating/semi-repeating gate/trig pulses from modulation curves, such as ones from the Maths and/or Wogglebug (I also assume you have these already, since those are older versions of MakeNoise's current ones), and then you can use those alongside the Euclidean patterns and logic to generate extremely complex gate/trig patterns, potentially non-repeating yet suitably metrical.

Also, if you don't have these modules already, consider changing the MIDI interface to an Expert Sleepers ES-8, which will allow you to run software such as Silent Way or Volta so that you can integrate computer-generated CV/gates using complex software functions from something such as Max, pd, etc along with the analog functions in the modular.

One last module to investigate might be the Mystic Circuits ANA, which is an arithmetical function module that acts on/transforms incoming CVs into new derived functions. Combining this with the Rene and, say, the Wogglebug would result in some interestingly-complex CV behavior.

Hataken (tokyo festival of modular founder) + SunFalls + Plea @ Beacon Sound here in pdx tomorrow night!
--> https://bit.ly/hatakenpdx

Also swapped out morphagene for tetrapad for this show, to play the digitone in real time via the addac 222 cv2midi module. its super fun doing chord stabs along the eloquencer sequencing 2 channels and all the modular drums as well

EDITED Yesterday, 00:41

Look up Euclidean Rhythm modules. That's great for getting "strange" rhythms going. You might be able to squeeze something in if you go with a smaller clock generator.

There is an alternate firmware for OC that further divides OC into two usable modules. I can't recall the name of it but it's out there. You may want to hit the second O_C with that. You may want to go analog with your envelopes, though. I find cycling through menus to adjust a parameter when all I want to do is tweak the release a tad to be a bit tiresome.

I am interested in purchasing the product: trg 31 (139 pounds plus expenses). From Spain I hope to solve it soon. Thank you. https://www.modulargrid.net/e/vpme-de-trig31
-- Marianosnd

Hello, to order please send an email to vp (at) vpme (dot) de

honestly I may get another uO_c, and have one dedicated to envelopes fulltime. idk where to get 4 individual envelopes in 8hp. that and maybe pico voice. that way all my synthvoices have built in decay envelopes for rhythmic stuff, but can also use them to drone and use envs for modulation.

I am interested in purchasing the product: trg 31 (139 pounds plus expenses). From Spain I hope to solve it soon. Thank you. https://www.modulargrid.net/e/vpme-de-trig31

Big up to @RTFM for his marvelous builds (I received a neatly done Turing Machine with expenders yesterday). I defenitely recommend if you need anything assembled for you.

PLEASE TELL ME HOW IT WORK IN YOUR OPINION.
I NEED SOMETHING OF RYTMIC LIKE A STRANGE DRUMS FOR MY GENERATIVE MUSIC RESEARCH.
THANKS.

EDITED Thursday September 20, 12:34

Everything great with @gesta I trade my analog four mk2 to gesta tempest and you can trust to him because we send the maschine in the same day and mine arrive and gesta analog four also arrive and i am very happy :)

Would it be possible to add some more case designs to the rack feature? Perhaps Intellijel will grant permission to use their case lay-out? A virtual Intellijel case would be nice... it's just about the only way to get your hands on one these days anyways. :)

Everything great with @gesta. The module he sold me looks just like new, and it was really well packaged. My first experience on the Modular Grid marketplace, and I can't be happier!

Bought a DIY MI Clouds from @PinPinKula last week, solid build quality, good packaging and fast trackable shipping to the Netherlands. Thanks!

Gotta say thanks to @digitalohm for fast action on shipping me a Tip Top Hats. A-leagues seller.

Looking decent, yep...maybe next, some linear VCAs, so that you can use your modulation sources to control CV-type levels. If you're not averse to DIY, there's this new dual VCA from Majella Audio that not only has the usual in/out/CV points, but also a second 'velocity' CV point which can also be used for any sort of secondary modulation signal, making it possible to easily add an extra amplitude modulation layer to CVs (or audio) in addition to the usual one. Spare attenuverters of some sort would be a good idea as well, so you can scale CVs as well as invert things such as envelopes, etc. In both cases, these would play nicely with the whole rig, not merely the Euro cab itself.

Thank you again Lugia so this is the point where I am. (Mother 32 and 0coast outside the case). Am I going in the right direction? More tips for future modules? Thank you

I'm trying to do a generative ambient patch similar to r beny or Lightbath, anyone have any tips and or patch notes they could give me to achieve this? Thanks so much!

Bought a Serge Triple+ Waveshaper from @fredeke, good communication and fast shipping! Good Seller!

Circadian Rhythms Tempo @ 136 BPM
From Top to Bottom, Left to Right (in modulargrid)
Note: This is Cables ONLY (see Modular grid for knob parameters)

M32 VCA --> Quad VCA CH. 4 Audio In
M32 MULT1 --> M32 LFO Rate
M32 MULT2 --> M32 VCO Lin FM
ADSR ENV Out --> M32 MULT IN
DixieII Triangle Out --> Cinnamon Audio In
Mutant Brain CV A Out --> DixieII 1v/Oct
ADSR ENV Out --> Cinnamon CV In
Cinnamon Lowpass Out --> Quad VCA CH. 1 Audio In
Mutant Brain Gate 1 Out --> ADSR Gate In
Circadian Rhythms CH. 1 Out --> Peaks TRIG2 In
Peaks OUT2 --> Maths CH. 4 Rise In
MIDI Solutions MIDI Out 2 --> Mutant Brain MIDI In
ADDAC 201B Buff Mult CH.1 Mult 2 --> Maths Channel 2 In
Maths CH. 3 Out --> Maths CH. 4 BOTH In
Maths CH. 2 Out --> (dummy cable)
Maths SUM Out --> Quad VCA CH. 3 Audio In
Maths CH. 4 Unity Signal Out --> Quad VCA CH. 2 Audio In
Quad VCA 4/Mix Out --> Joranalogue Mix 3 Signal Input A
Joranalogue OUT --> Mixer/Soundcard
Blofeld Left/Stereo Out --> ADDAC 201B Buff Mult CH. 1 In
ADDAC 201B Buff Mult CH. 1 Mult 1 --> Mixer/Soundcard

Outboard Gear
Arturia KeyStep
- MIDI Out --> MIDI Solutions Quadra Thru
- MIDI Solutions Quadra Thru --> Blofeld MIDI In
MIDI Out 1
Sequences are the first 16 bars of Fugue in G Minor with 4 bars per sequence, repeat or advance sequences
to taste.
Blofeld - Modified version of ModWheelOrganSCD Patch (filter stuff like used Comb+, LFO assigned to cutoff)

EDITED Monday September 17, 03:37

Thanks to @Asmorod - really nice to make a deal with you!

I use an old tr-626 for live work, sequencing MIDI modules and other drum machines as well as feeding my eurorack the sync signal from the TRIG-out jack, I often leave the 626 in pattern step write mode and that lets me create on the fly. I lose the ability to have patterns all setup with the (useful) accent and flam already but those are easily added in on the fly. Can you do that in the BSP at least? or does that make changing patterns for the synth work impossible and now tied to the single pattern being open for writing in real time? could a module like LaunchCodes be more useful to you?

A drum machine, actually. But barring that, it seems like there should be a solution in drum sequencer modules such as Acidlab's Robokop, Twisted Electrons' Crazy8 Beats, or Erica's Drum Sequencer, all of which are specifically designed to function like drum machine sequencers. While I like and use the BSPs for various things, with one exception (triggering an ancient MXR Drum Computer with a blown sequencer section) I tend to use these as step sequencers, particularly in situations where I want multiple monophonic lines in asynchrony.
-- Lugia

Thanks for your thoughts Lugia. I've had many and most drum machines ..new and old but want a tactile way I can play, in terms of live recording of drum hits and muting and unmuting drum sounds whilst all in the rack. Even with the BSP I feel disconected to from the rack modules. Oh well I'll check out the modules you mention. ✌

A drum machine, actually. But barring that, it seems like there should be a solution in drum sequencer modules such as Acidlab's Robokop, Twisted Electrons' Crazy8 Beats, or Erica's Drum Sequencer, all of which are specifically designed to function like drum machine sequencers. While I like and use the BSPs for various things, with one exception (triggering an ancient MXR Drum Computer with a blown sequencer section) I tend to use these as step sequencers, particularly in situations where I want multiple monophonic lines in asynchrony.

Yeah...I think that for the space vs function issues it deals with, the Erogenous Tones stuff raises the bar on function density in 3U. A combo of the VC8 + RADAR/BLIP provides pretty much everything you'd want in signal control in 54 hp. That sounds like a lot of space, but considering what gets dealt with, it's a great tradeoff. This can deal with both audio and CV simultaneously, can be made to function in a number of more elaborate envelope sequenced methods and, if you take another 10 hp for the Levit8, mixing for 4 channels each of audio and CV, or individual attenuation for any and/or all of that. Add the extra perks like inverters, offset gens, etc...these seem to wind up in all of my builds and build sketches in recent times for very real reasons!

This is a sketch pad for where it's all headed. Getting rid of the basic-function modules (some Doepfer, a fixted filterbank) in favor of some different directions.

Hey all, I am struggling to find a fluid way to perform live with my modular drums. I am currently using a beatstep pro to sequence some tiptop drum modules but find its muting method bloody annoying.

What's your method for perfoming live with drums?

Thanks,
Alpha Hz

I have been thinking of splitting my rack into 2 as well, using one as a controller for the other. I was going to use the new Intellijel Octalink for linking the two systems up. Since you don't have any 1U, in 3U scale there is the equivalent Doepfer A-180-9.

For routing/mixing there are many many options.... Here are two options that just happen to be too big for my rack but seem to be really popular:
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/wmd-sequential-switch-matrix-ssm
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/4ms-company-vca-matrix

Personally, I am going for something smaller:
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/joranalogue-audio-design-select-2

In my rack I use 2x Quadratts for mixing, but since you don't have 1U, you might consider getting a couple Shades or Triatt modules. Or do what @Lugia was saying and look at some of the rad 8x stuff that Erogenous Tones makes (like Levit8 or VC8).

How could you NOT be happy with the ambient sound with this setup? I mean, hell, it's as ambient as it gets!

Had a look at Erogenous Tones' stuff lately? That might give you a few ideas...

Yeah, the MScale is definitely a must for controlling the M32 with the Eurorack and vice-versa. Next, I think beefing up the modulation capabilities is key here. Doepfer's A-143-1 gives a lot of options for that, plus it comes in very cheaply at 169EUR, which takes us to 229EUR.

Then, I think something that allows you to beef up the M32's sound is going to be critical, namely another VCO. Sticking with Doepfer (best value for function if you're in Europe, I think), the A-110-1 at 117EUR is a decent choice. You don't need anything super-fancy, really, just some different waveforms, sync, and CV mods. So, 346EUR, within your budget frame.

And yeah, Doepfer stuff is just fine. It's rather basic, but when you need basic, it more than fills the bill. Dieter did these things right...so right, that they're what kicked all of this modular craziness back into gear some 20+ years ago!

I have 2x quadratts and a Noise tools, and I can vouch that it makes a pretty sweet 1U row!! :-)

Ok, now just for thought...

I very recently managed to make myself a Poti in only 2HP of 1U space (and I see you have a 2HP gap). This didn't even require soldering to assemble, mainly you have to very carefully drill 3 holes in a blank panel using a template.
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=192446&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=25

As for the dual ADSR, if you wanted to free up some more space.. You could go for a Doepfer A140-2 8HP 2XADSR. I've personally been eyeing the upcoming Doepfer A-142-2 which is 2x AR envelopes+VCAs with ducking, in only 8HP (bonus, you get more VCAs!).
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/doepfer-a-142-2

Well, that'd make 9HP more to play with. Rather than going super-high-density, you could use the HP to replace some of those really tiny 2HP modules with bigger and better of the same.

EDITED Sep 14th, 21:25

this module is bomb for modular liveset!!!

Thanks Dennis! I have big hands so I thought about that when installing. But I tend to set-n-forget the effects or let CV do the work. So the tight squeeze is okay.

I'm probably going to drop the wave-folder out and replace it with a precision adder, a buffered mult, and a Compare Two all from Joranalogue. I should have the spacing to do that. I'll save the wave-folder for the next case. The Disting can handle precision adding for the meantime until the Joranalogue stuff comes out. This is getting expensive. :)

are you using the befall mixers for audio or do you use a external mixer?
-- dennis123

yeah, I use the befaco mixers. that or the quatro figaro.

I have not used the Crazy8 Beats but it's on my purchase list as I can use it now before I have any eurorack modules. It's a standalone sequencer that can be removed from it's desktop case and placed in a euorack case.

A mutable mixing module would be a great way to utilize the the joysticks of this case. Using the Crazy8 Beats for sequenced changes (since it can do something akin to parameter lock w/ CC's) would require using a MIDI-to-CV converter (which is actually sort of a bummer since it already has trigger and sync IO).

Another misadventure into ridiculous-costing-rigs land...

This all started after seeing a case like this:

I was thinking how neat it would be to use this case as a eurorack workstation! Since this is a disc jockey case, it would need some kind of catchy new name: Mod Jockey! Can't tell if that's terribly cliché or kind of clever (all my best ideas ride this fine line).

So the eurorack modules will sit in the very top portion of the workstation (where the LCD monitors are in the image). But that's only 3U so my 1U modules will actually sit directly below in the rack unit closest to the top portion. Using Synthrotek's 1U eurorack bracket. Hopefully this slight angle between the 1U and the 3U modules will not be an issue for ergonomics.

What will the remaining 6U of slanted rack space be used for?

The Mode Machines SEQ12 is a 6U 19" rack-mountable sequencer. The SEQ12 has 3 MIDI outputs and they can be put into "CVFASTMODE" which sends MIDI data at a much faster rate (not sure if this will work with the Bastl 1983 or not, I'm also interested in exploring the Hexinverter Mutant Brain for this purpose). My plan is to use one MIDI output for the 1983, one for the Treadstone and another will go to my external daisy-chained gear.

The 4 rack units at the very bottom will have a 3 rack unit mixer of some kind and a 1 rack unit compressor. These will let me master the sound just a bit while performing live. The Analogue Solutions RP08 will be used as a "trunk" connecting my eurorack to my mixer from inside the case (saves me some HP from a true mixer module and avoids extra patch cable clutter heading into the case).

So, about $2,500 for the eurorack modules, another $400 for the case (including the eurorack brackets), the SEQ12 is $1100 iirc and the mixer and compressor will set me back at least another grand. So about $5,000 for this whole rig all things considered (which I still haven't considered a power supply!)....I must be dreaming...

EDITED Sep 14th, 14:27