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1. Bigger case. You're just gonna find yourself limited with 84 hp, no matter how you look at it. Particularly since you can only have 10 modules plugged into this case, regardless of how much hp you can squeeze out of it. The Nifty case has things going for it, no doubt (like the DAW connectivity), but you're just going to get frustrated saying "no" to interesting modules with a case this size when for only a module's amount more you can get something bigger (e.g., Mantis, etc..) that will allow you more flexibility.

I saw the "get more HP" suggestions coming from a mile away

I for financial, space and creative reasons I'm limiting myself to this HP.

2. The Grandmother already comes with a sequencer and arpeggiator, a filter that you can send a signal into, and a few other tricks. Use those and don'y waste space with modules like the 2HP Arp (it's a good module, but not a great use of space). Also, between Plait's natural abilities and the VCF on the Grandmother, the MI Ripples starts to seem unnecessary.

The 2 HP Arp is/will be the first victim of a rejig for this reason.

I am a big fan of the sound of Ripples. I'm also a fan of knobs I can grab, hence the full size MI modules rather than smaller clones.

3. Triggers and LFOs. As you can see, I've done a lot to your rack. Moved your Pams to the left (personal preference) and gave it the expander. Pam's can do a lot of neat tricks (triggers, gates, logic, quantization, stepped/smooth random, limited envelopes, euclidean rhythms, etc.). You don't want to waste its regular outputs on something dull like a steady 1x trigger. Use the expander for that. Next, we have modulation. Your A-147-2 is awesome, but pretty big for that case. So, I went bigger. For 5 hp more, you get Batumi and it's expander, giving you up to 12 LFO outs. Plus it can be cv controlled, self-patched, and has a few neat rhythmic modes that will keep you busy.

I usually have Pam's on the left but had the notion that as its central position lends itself to shorter routing to the mult and attentuators etc.

I'm willing to look at LFO alternatives, but I'm not going to pump it up to 12.

4. Utilities and cv-futzers. More, you need more. Audio manglers sound nice, but the richness and movement and finesse in modular come from the ability to move, attenuate, switch, offset/invert, route, and otherwise f-up a signal, which is what utilities give. First, you have the Happy Nerding 3x MIA. Everybody needs attenuverters, and this is 1 more than the one you had already. Also, the double pots are great to play with. Then the A-130-2, dual VCAs, since you really can't have too many. I like to have VCAs after my LFOs so I can modulate the modulator. Then, the A-182-1, Switched Multiple. This module takes no power and allows you to manually send or mute signals to two different sources. It also acts as a 2 channel multiple. As simple as it is, I've found it essential to my patches. Then uO_C, which gives you access to a whole host of programs to try out, such as quantizers, sequencers, slew, clock dividers, envelopes, simple comparators, vcas, and logic, etc... I prefer it with Hemisphere loaded, but it's amazing either way. A bit menu-divey, but it will give you a sense of what utilities and tools you'll want to dedicate a standalone module to in the future. Then the endorphins.es Airstreamer for ADSR duties (and other things like slew, s/h, etc.). Unfortunately, envelopes were an area I couldn't really help with (aside from uO_C and Airstreamer), as I don't know of good dual (or more) envelope generators that are thin. If you had a few hp more you could go with some interesting options, but you are limited at the moment to 4 hp (see below about Plaits). At the end, I give you another Happy Nerding Module, the 3x VCA, since, you really can't have too many of them, and they work great as an end of chain module. Also, those double pots.

The O/A/x2 is kind of a place holder in terms of attenuvertor, so the Airstreamer and HN 3 x MIA are totally options I'd entertain.

5. Audio. Plaits has got a big footprint, but I always prefer the real MI modules to clones. That said, with MI gone now, a clone like Knits would not be a bad or problematic choice. With Plait's/Knit's onboard abilities, you can do without an additional VCF, hence the removal of Ripples (no offense to a cool module intended). Then Beads. Beads is awesome. Beads stays. Be aware though, it takes some playing around with to get the sounds you want out of it. Once you figure it out though (and if you have enough modulation), it can really do wonders. With 3 hp left, I give you Erica Synths DSP, just a few more effects to play around with.
   -- HGsynth

DSP is going to be done through a mixer FX and/or in a DAW once recorded.

Lots of food for thought there. Appreciate the input!

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Revised rack

EDITED May 7th 2023, 01:29

My current version has another filter instead of Pam's and an Erica dual ASR that I want to replace with the Intelligel ADSR because I prefer the layout and functionality for the HP ... but for all intents and purposes, close enough to where I'm at.

This is sitting in a Nifty Case giving me my power and some I/O options. Additionally, this sits just above a Moog Grandmother. Technically this is its companion and expander. The intent is to create more complex textures to complement the moog and also create more esoteric sounds, courtesy of Beads.

As you can see, I got 2 HP spare. I'm still pretty damn fresh to this, but I feel this is a respectable and useful setup ... but with 2 HP left, what would you slot in there?

This thing has grown in part from some modules donated (pip slope and O/A/X2) where after I got myself Plaits and the Doepfer VCA. The rack also currently has two other donated units, a Behringer VCF and dual envelope generator. I do not like either of the Behringer units, so the dual ADSR and MCF x 2 are direct replacements of those.

All of this is going into a Niftycare that I acquired rather cheaply, so there's a bunch of I/O taken care of, but it does limit me to 10 units for the given HP.

I already have a Juno 6 and a Moog Grandmother, so I want to build something that has a different sort of creative angle and primarily I want to be able to make modulated pads/drones some variations in texture and timbre.

So this is what i plan to do:

Input greatly appreciated!

I added the Butami and dropped the other LFO ... I'll add more as needs be later. Opted for a Doepfer VCADSR and dropped in Veils too.

Final case and PSU TBC. I started with this smaller size to ensure I had room to grow in a larger case but from a good foundation.

I had some folks peep my build and threw around some ideas which radically changed the intial build .. but here it is here:

I already have a Moog Grandmother, and a Behringer 303 clone, so this may interface with those devices, or I might just from it from a controller keyboard or my DAW.

In general I wanted to build something that was reasonable "complete" so I can get to grips with it all, and think about swapping our or adding modules further down the line ... cos that's how this works.

I wanted a couple of rather different OSCs to add some variety of flavour and then have the fundamental tools to sculpt those a bit without getting in too deep or spending too much straight off the bat.

This will probably end up in a case larger than the 84 I assigned it for future fun/updates.

Am I missing anything important, or are there any ways I could "improve" this rig?