How about in 'My Modular' there could be a Move Row Up / Move Row Down buttons? So when you add a new row you can easily move rows without having to move each individual module.
-- wishbonebrewery

Hey, you can do that under the edit tab, swap row X for Y.

Hello! I've been thinking a lot about quadraphonic systems and the key element for me are the matrix mixers. Not only they can send audio to 4 different outputs but they can also mix dry/wet fx signals to multiple destinations without the need for many fx modules. It's hard to imagine the possibilities that's why not many people consider them.

Absolutely brilliant ideas. Thanks MNLO.

I really like the look of Verbos. They've seriously nailed function and form. I'm a fan of the Harmonic Oscillator (and their whole system!), so perhaps the case will take a stroll down that street next.

I'm easy in terms of direction. I suppose one path I'd like to explore is implementing the classic techniques (subtractive/fm/additive etc.) with gritty digital sounds reminiscent of the 80s/90s era of bit-depth/sample-rate restricted technology. Any thoughts?

In all honesty though, I don't want to steer the thread too much in order to hear ideas that simply wouldn't have crossed my mind before. The only real criteria being what have people found to be particularly great sounding and fun to use.

How about in 'My Modular' there could be a Move Row Up / Move Row Down buttons? So when you add a new row you can easily move rows without having to move each individual module.

Ah, that sounds like a great combination of instruments. In that case, I would definitely get something like the Doepfer A-119 or a similar mic/instrument preamp with envelope follower. Rings and Clouds would likely both be really fun with a dulcimer.
I've been using two of the TipTop Mantis cases (208 hp each) along with two Make Noise skiffs (104hp each), and I would highly recommend the Mantis in regards to value for money. They have been having trouble with low stock, but I'm sure you could find one soon.
Have fun and good luck!

@farkas, sorry I didnt clear things up before, I am a hammered dulcimer player (primary instrument); my live and recorded work usually revolves around pre-recorded dulcimer samples which are converted from pitch to midi via ableton then ableton is used to sequence an elektron analog 4 MKI. I have a bunch of external piezo mic'ed gear which makes me think I want some pre-amp modules like the ears. I make ambient music and was looking to put together a small generative synth for my first eurorack setup. Since becoming more knowledgeable about my current system (pretty much everything besides the micro plaits and disting) I am realizing that I need more space to build the machine which can match my required level of modulation and expression. Thanks for the help, will be building a bigger case...

I think if I was dead set on the micro Mutable clones and 84hp, I would go with something like this:

You still haven't mentioned what kind of music you are trying to create, or given us any idea if you have any other gear to pair with a modular, so this is all just guesswork. First and foremost, I would recommend buying a larger case than you think you currently need though. That would be the first universal piece of advice I could give.

@farkas, just updated the case if your down to take a look

Would it be possible to implement rack gear? I think it would be great for studio building, and there are a vast amount of units and ecosystems.....examples:

Distressor
Pultecs
Manley

Etc

It would help build and plan a Studio Rack

thoughts?

The chromatic modules are a good place to start, as you can get a VCO, VCA, Filter, Mixer, EG, and LFO all in just three modules for around $100 a piece. It’s what I did and don’t regret it. Definitely go for a 6U case. My rackbrute 3U filled up very fast and now I’m kind of stuck debating with myself if I want to get the 6U and have 9U which is more than I need, or switch to a different 6U case and sell my 3U or keep it as a separate case for a small system later. Either way it’s a problem I wish I didn’t have.

Hi there,

I have a brand new Disting Ex and I can't make it communicate with my Sweet Sixteen via i2c.
I've tryed every possibilities.
Pull up on Disting enabled and disabled on Sweet 16.
Disabled on Disting enabled on Sweet 16.
Sweet 16 in master and slave mode, with pull up enabled and disabled.
3 different Dupont cable at the back of the modules.

I read the manual 12457664531 times of course.
Nothing works.
I have contacted Mangu at Tesseract, he tries to help me. Thanks to him very mich.
But for the moment no solution.

If someone could help, it will be veeeeery appreciated.

Have a nice day.

If you're curious about the sound of the E520 this demo may be helpful:

Hi Mowse.

So which modules do pay you a rent? I need those modules, get some side-income to finance some other modules ;-)

Have a good weekend and enjoy the Panharmonium... oh typing that is quite okay ;-) Kind regards, Garfield.

Hello Mudmux,

Welcome to the forum :-D

Well... you could start with the Stereo Line Out module only and then see if you miss the Headphones, if yes you buy that one too :-) You don't have to buy everything in one go. It's advised to take it slowly and buy only a few modules in one go, get experience with those and the (re-) adjust your opinion on those you still want to buy, and then buy again a few, etcetera.

Sorry, can't help you with the ALM hpo, don't know that module, perhaps someone else who got it can help you with that one.

Good luck with modular synths and kind regards, Garfield Modular.

Hi JRenklint,

Always 4 times faster... that's weird isn't it, looks like a setting to me. Did you had a closer look into the Logic Pro already? Perhaps somewhere multiplied the clock before sending it out on MIDI? It also could be a setting in the Erica Synths - Black MIDI to CV module but that one you should be able to find in the manual.

For the moment as a work around (till you found the problem) you could use a modular divider and divide the clock by 4 then you are back to the original clock signal :-)

Good luck with the troubleshooting and kind regards, Garfield Modular.

Thank you for your thoughts! I have a long way to go. @troux I'm going to play with your suggestions.

@mowse I agree. Let's have some fun and report back.

Ok. This thing was worth the price tag. It can stay. I won't even charge it rent.

Hello Everyone! Long-time user, first-time poster here on modular grid.

I have been making music with modular synths for about three and a half years. Currently, I am developing my system to work well in live situations and in conjunction with external sounds and instrumentation via Little Mikey*.

To date, I have been using a rosie as my output module; I like that it can be used as a line out or headphones out, and I have used it to plug directly in to a house PA system no problems. I have a 7u 84hp intellijel performance case and have been using the rosie as a basic end-of-chain mixer, but I recently ordered a verbos scan & pan and am looking to free up some space by getting a smaller output module.

Of course I have considered the intellijel 1u options, specifically the Stereo Line Out and/or the Headphones 1u (do I need both? can I use headphones with the output jack in the Performance case with the Line Out module?). I am also kind of interested in the ALM hpo, but am not sure if I would miss the 1/4" out.

Anyone care to share some experiences? Thoughts? Stories? Anyone curious about the same things?

Happy to be here!

~

 * if anyone is looking to sell an expert sleepers Little Mikey contact me :) *

I think it could work very nicely and I think also that there will be found several other ways to do it. That will be the fun part, experimenting with the concept in multiple ways. The weekend is coming and there will be time to exploire.

You are right, using a VCA as a pre-VCA is definitely silly :D

Thank you for the advice, GarfieldModular! A lot of good ideas here. Unfortunately I don't have a tone of modules so my options are limited. At the moment I am just looping the Pip Slope through my current VCA to boost the sound even though it is altering my decay. Thank you for the tip about the Waldorf - DVCA1, I will definitely look into it!

Down the eurorackhole you go ;)... Be prepared to raise funds, constantly changing modules and setup, watch lots of yt...

Most basic setup in my eyes is: vco, vcf, vca, eg, lfo. Expand this by these modules multiple times as you like and need, a mixer, attenueatars/-verters, cv functions/manipulators, one or two effects (reverb and delay), always remember: you can't have enough vca's and hp, and money. Also sell the DT (funds!) and get an eurorack CV sequencer like the hermit or so for the beginning, just my two cents, I ditched all elektron stuff (rytm mk2, DT, DN, A4 mk2) to fund eurorack stuff, never looked back! :)

Best,
jingo

EDITED Jul 30th 2020, 20:12

Thanks! Reading through my comment again, I realize that I sounded like an asshole... Apologies to everybody, keep up the good work!

a good starting point would be to get all doepfer modules (vco, vca, vcf, lfo etc) - they are reasonably priced and pretty good

the dreadbox chromatic modules appear to be quite decent too - but pretty much any brand within your price range is a good idea

for a vca I would suggest a quad cascading vca - either veils or the intellijel qaud vca would be my top picks for a starter case

otherwise maybe an idea of budget would be a good idea - i would go for simpler stuff to start with and learn how to patch before getting more (complex) modules (and get them slowly, if you can)

and don't forget to spend some time working out what different types of module do - especially ones that come under the banner 'utilities' - they are relatively inexpensive and are the dull polish that make the shiny modules actually shine

Great piece of kit, very happy with it.

Builder´s Notes

On the rack builder page there is a new tab menu entry Builders's Notes beside the Comments tab. This is a private text area where you can add and edit notes related to your rack build. Builders's Notes is a Unicorn feature.

Rainbow Cables

The Sketch a Patch section has a new cable color system available: Rainbow
The color of the cables is not defined by length like in the Stackable and Doepfer systems.
Instead the colour is assigned automatically in order one after another in series as you lay them out. 12 colors are available.
This should make it easier to follow complex patches.

but why is this crap allowed, on the other hand?

It's not allowed. I have unlisted the PSU.

When I posted an alternative front plate for the Rubicon a while ago, I caught hell from the admins, because I didn't know about the "pick another plate" functionality. I am sorry, but why is this crap allowed, on the other hand? By this logic, let's post all the numerous Doepfer bus board power supplies, and also the power bricks by 4ms and Intellijel, and maybe throw in a couple of flying bus cables as well?

Edit: The FM Ogre is covered up because bugs. But trust me it's there.

Hello all. I've revised my build since I last sought advice, and I have several questions. Also I'm looking for any general advice from experienced builders. This is my first (goal) build and plan to actually start it soon. Please guide or correct my thoughts and provide any input that might help! My background is that I am someone who has played with this stuff in software for at least 10 years, but got my first taste with the Neutron about a year ago (and have a list of limitations I frequently run into when using it, especially lack of attenuverters, triggerable EGs, lack of end of cycle triggers on EGs, and needing a third oscillator). I also own a handful of volcas but using a bunch of separate sequencers at once is unmanageable and my musical ideas tend to come in phrases of at least 2 bars in 16th notes or 16th note triplets. FWIW all the spontaneity and live recording functions of the Volca line are sucked dry as soon as you want a sequence longer than 16 steps. I also have played the cello and bass guitar from a young age so I'm not intimidated by music theory and like to have chord progression stuff possible in my workflow. In addition I'm very curious about plugging my bass and cello w/pickup into a modular synth. I studied physics and love learning about how instruments work and how to imitate them. At the same time purely electronic and imaginary sounds are amazing and I want to explore both at the same time. So here goes:

Goal: Primarily a flexible sound design lab with 3 operator FM, TZFM, and sequencing/sampling capabilities (keystep is a nightmare to program) so that I can minimize interaction with a computer. When I finish that amazing flute patch I worked so hard on I want to sample the instrument for later use. However I also have fun strong-arming the Neutron into generative patches and have gotten all kinds of contemplative sounding atmospheres, accidentally discovered the concept of filter pinging, and somehow gotten 5 part percussive rhythms plus a bassline out of just its 2 oscillators, an lfo, and a single filter. That type of exploration is extremely rewarding, so having exploratory generative tools (with a steering wheel, something like a very, very small Colin Bendersesque setup) is also important. I like the basic building blocks approach (rings is a compromise, more on that later, and damn would I die for a Trident). I like to be able to create the effects I want out of small parts so that I understand them before deciding on what compromises I'm willing to make when offloading them to another person's subroutine/module.

External hardware:
Behringer Neutron
Keystep
Behringer Xenyx 1202FX
Volcas/Bass Guitar/Cello
Mio2 MIDI router/filter/mapper

So that's the goal. On to specific questions:

Oh, but first, modules covered by the neutron so there is no confusion: 2 oscillators with soft sync (only to eachother, but there's a hardsync mod), pwm, and log FM, 1 resonant self oscillating filter with 2 outputs (Lpf+hpf, hpf+bpf, bpf+lpf), 1 clock syncable audio rate lfo, noise, 2 vcas, 1 attenuator, 2 linear ADSRs (no cv inputs except for gate, non loopable), overdrive w/tilt filter, grungy delay (input and rate cv controls, not clock syncable), S&H + hardwired slew (clock syncable, audio rate, used mostly as a bitcrusher), 1 slew (either linear or log not sure), 1 slew hardwired to pitch, 1 audio in that does no boosting of line level inputs but allows for self-feedback patches.

Ok. Questions.
1. Filter recommendations:
Neutron allows for notch behavior by combining its two filter outs. A second notch filter would be very nice, working towards the 3 notch/bp filter requirement for recognizable vowel formants which I could then control with CV. Also more notch filters = better phaser effects. The two in the build here are just placeholders, though I do like the way ripples sounds from the youtube videos I've watched. Smoother than Neutron and, like Neutron, no bass drop on Q increase.

1.5. Matrix mixer thoughts:
The doepfer 4x4 was my first choice because another thing I very much lack with the neutron is offsets and attenuvertors and it does this. But the main reason is for routing an inverted envelope follower from a kick drum to several sources at varying levels of attenuation. I know there's also a lot of other magic that can be done with matrix mixers and that is something I plan to learn. But the doepfer is big, the intellijel 1u quadratt or a shades gives offsets and attenuversion, so I think the smaller non-offsetting non-inverting 4x3 mixer is fine for now. Another alternative is that there are a couple of 4x2 mixers that can be chained into eachother later on, but I think i'd rather have the 3 available right away and then just trade up once I know more about the different things I want it for.

Case thoughts:
I originally wanted a Behringer Go because it's cheap, big, and has lots of power. However I will need to travel with my rig, so it needs to fit US carry-on specs. That turned me to the rackbrute 6u, but I'd still need to drop $100+ on a hard case for it, and it doesn't have enough power. Another power module and I would have to give up a module. Alternatively I could buy 2 rackbrute 6us and a soft case, and plug into the second case's power supply, but i'd still need another power module in the future. That plus the travel case costs make me think jumping straight into an intelligel 7u is the better way to go. It is ready to travel out of the gate and has more than enough power. Also I was able to recoup over $100 of the price difference by replacing modules with 1u versions. Accounting for the above issues, cost per HP is as follows:
2 rackbrute 6u (171hp2) + soft case = (600 + 30)/(171x2) = $1.84/hp (not accounting for a future second power module so probably not much better than the 1 rackbrute solution below)
1 rackbrute 6u + hard case = (300 + 100)/(171) (IF IT CAN HANDLE 1500mA) = $2.34/hp
1 7u intellijel (assuming the top row = ~5 modules of saved space) + no extra case = 650/~229 = ~$2.84/hp
1 6u Mantis case: I hate the way it looks. I think it looks like a Fischer Price toy. I'm as utilitarian as they come, but this is an instrument and if looking at it kills your inspiration then in this case (no pun intended) style is equivalent to utility.

Option 2 probably wont even work and gives me zero space to expand, option 1 gives the most space to expand but introduces so much uncertainty (will it fit in the case I buy? What sort of foam will I fill the case with?), option 3 isnt THAT much more inefficient than the other two and is easiest to travel with, while still leaving me room for a few more modules. It is also linkable to another case in the future.

Seq + Sampler thoughts:
In addition to what I said in my intro about needing seq/sample functionality, I love euclidean rhythms. The neutron can actually do pseudo euclidean rhythms with both oscs cranked way down as pulse waves and synced. One gives the main clock and the other gives evenly spaced but not quite perfect divisions of that clock and then resets each main cycle. Add in pwm and delay for more rhythmic coolness. Problem is now I have no more oscillators, so a dedicated module for clock play is very much desired. Hence Hermod and Marbles. Hermod is kind of a bang for buck beast here, as it handles midi connectivity with my Keystep and DJTechTools 4x4 continuous rotating potentiometer thing. And it can play with my Volcas if for some reason I decide not to sell them to help fund this. I love using Seq24/32/48/64/66 on the computer, and to a more limited extent Caustic 3 on android. Pattern based is what I jell with (pun somewhat intended). The 1010 musicbox stuff has that workflow as does the Hermod (though with a different interface).
Current choice: Hermod + Bitbox micro
Alternatives: Blackbox + Midi interface (poly 2): ~$1000. blackbox not triggerable by cv, and no guarantee auto multisampling will be implemented. Speaking of midi solutions. An 8 channel midi interface runs about $400 in EU. Add $100 to that and you end up with a Hermod, which does sequencing, midi, and prevents me from needing a dedicated euclidean module. I'd need to hear a very compelling argument to decide to NOT just get the Hermod and call it done.
Hermod + Bitbox Mk2: 16 samples would be nice, but it didn't have velocity multisampling last I checked and that is a non-starter for me. It's also bigger and unless i prove to myself i NEED more than 8 pads it seems like a waste to purchase it. Micro has more outs too, and I don't care about synthbox/fxbox firmwares.
Pyramid + Midi + Bitbox micro: Just no. $$$$$$$$$$
Still researching: Squid Salmpl, Vector, Eloquencer.

Getting late will finish tomorrow. In the meantime thankyou for any tips or thoughts you have!

EDITED Jul 30th 2020, 08:56

Nice @mowse, I can see how you'd be moving in this direction with your rack. What do you think of the quad effects path question? That felt like the hardest part to me (which is why I went with the Picos since they're so small and cheap) but I kind of think you'd have to lean into it to really do this well.

Am also moving in this direction. Recently added Planar 2 and Batumi while also close to swapping out Nebulae for WORNG Vector Space. I am working towards deep, wide, evolving sessions. I like to patch up something that is organic, textured, interesting and explorable while also playing over it with tactile modules like Planar 2. I'm not even close yet, but I know where I want to be.

https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_1259259.jpg

Let's keep this thread going and see where it leads us. Record some patches. Let the gear lust be fed by what we learn and figure out.

This is a pretty interesting question @jamesallisters. I'm definitely not the best qualified to answer on the forum, but I went ahead and put together a rack (based on yours) to think about how I'd tackle this problem.

My theory (though I'd love to hear what others think) is that I'd want:
1) a ton of modulation: so I added the Ochd, the 4ms Quad Lfo, and the WORNG Vector Space, this in turn would make me want
2) a lot of VCAs: so I added the 4ms VCA Matrix
3) a quad effects path, so I added two Erica Synths Pico DSPs which are each stereo, and the Qu-Bit Tone
4) a ton of potential voices, so the Quad Morphing VCO and the Chord
5) something to fill in all the gaps that are missing, so a Disting EX which can be used in dual mode
6) one more inverter just in case, and
7) some way to manually control quad panning, so the Planar 2.

Anyway, I'm not sure I'd suggest you buy this rack exactly, but hopefully there's some useful ideas in there!

I think I take it to another direction.
If I add the Doepfer A-138S (Stereo) mixer with panning, I can use that also for other puposes.
But I can mix the 2 Return signals hard left and right, and add 1 or 2 other signals the way I like (left/middle or right).
That seems to be more flexible then my original wish.

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/doepfer-a-138sv

Maybe an even better alternative is the Make Noise XPAN.
But at the moment I do not think I have the budget for it.
The idea behind it is a little better for me, and I like the Aux in for decentralized mixing.

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/make-noise-x-pan

So for now I think the next purchase is the Doepfer A-138S, then I can concentrate myself on other area's in the rack.
Maybe it will bring some noise, but for now it will be enough.

EDITED Jul 30th 2020, 07:53

MNLO, Thank you so much for the help :) Yes, I should invest in a 84hp 6U case! You're right. Unfortunately the pre built rigs are all a little out of my initial budget ahaha I prefer to slowly add components. Thank you so much for the CVC Rack tip, I downloaded the software and it's been wonderful, such a great tool indeed.
For the type of sound I'm after, I would like something versatile, something not too specific.. I do like acid stuff, but I also love ambient! I'm mainly into techno, so basslines should be something I want to make with my rack.

I'm always afraid of beginning my journey into eurorack because I don't know anyone personally who could help me with it.. So I try to use forums to learn most of it.

Do you have a suggestion of what kind of essential modules I should get? - a VCO, a VCF, a VCA, an EG, an LFO, and probably some kind of mixer/output module (to output the modular to my mixer and then my monitors). I should probably need a MIDI interface, with CV and Gate, because I'm going to sequence it with my Digitakt, or an external midi sequencer.

Thank you again, it's hard to start ahah but I'm sure I will love the ride! :)
Cheers,
-Nico

Thanks for taking the time to look over what I've been putting together here and give your feedback. It's much appreciated.

I understand the need to look beyond big name brands and mix things up a bit.

Partly that was to keep things simple for myself as my knowledge and understanding developed.

Partly that was because I thought modules from bigger names would play more nicely for a newbie.

I will definitely be taking the plunge soon. I can't wait!

Hi!

New to this forum and to eurorack. I'm trying to send clock from logic pro x to my Erica synths black midi to cv. But the clock signal from logic is always 4 times faster than the actual tempo, going in 16ths basically. I can't figure out why, tried everything! Help!

Related, but not sure if fixable: I some time use my old Korg R3 as a midi controller for my eurorack system. It works great but the korg R3 doesn't send a clock signal at all. Or the erica Synths module doesn't register it. Any ideas?

This module could also be tagged "External" please

Modular signals are much hotter than line level, but you can usually get by without a line level output module. I plug directly into my mixer, but just keep an eye on the gain.
You have posted many different ideas for racks in this forum, some of which might be fun and some definitely won't be any fun at all. I would recommend looking beyond brand name and matching panels to find different modules that will help you accomplish what you want. A Make Noise Telharmonic is going to sound vastly different from an Intellijel Dixie or a Mutable Plaits, and you will need to consider what utilities might help you achieve the sounds you are looking for. Why would you need a modular over software or other hardware synths? What is the benefit of pursuing your music this way?
I would recommend checking out VCV Rack to make sure you have a good handle on what is necessary to make a modular synth work.
Have fun and good luck!

Thank you for your comments.

I don't have very specific goals in mind. I listen to experimental techno and house but I'm not particularly concerned with making polished, stand-alone tracks, at least for the moment.

I want to put together a system that allows me lots of opportunities for exploring sounds, patterns and rhythms.

I was wondering about output. I have a Allen and Heath ZEDi 10 mixer. I can't just route a signal from any general output then?

Hey @troux!

Thanks for this question! My current technical understanding is based on the capabilities of the Buchla 227e (CV quantized movement, swirl, etc.). At the very least I would like to be able to emulate that kind of movement.

Ideally, I would like to allow CV parameters to maintain movement of generative ambient across the room,
while I am sequencing harmonies or processing field recordings in opposite parts of the room (will need to invert signal...still searching for the right module/s). Stylistically, think Ciani // Pamela Z // Robert Aiki Aubrey Lowe.

Trying to get as much spatial dynamics to explore ambient as possible AND trying to figure out advanced effect processing for field recordings and live vocals (not really reflected in this rack yet, but thought I'd mention).

Thanks for your thoughts!

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I'm a complete modular newbie and so your comments and/or suggestions are very welcome!

My current system consists of a Moog DFAM, Subharmonicon, Roland TR8-S, Eventide H9 Max and Allen and Heath ZEDi 10.

I have some initial thoughts @jamesallisters but first off I'm curious what you actually want to do within quadraphonic space. Is it an open playground for you (i.e. you're not sure yet or you want to try everything you can imagine) or is it something that you want to accomplish particular goals within (e.g. making Ryoji Ikeda jealous of your cool rotating notch effects)? You say "It is meant to allow for organic and real-time weaving of controlled/generative ambient and the textures of speech and/or field recordings." but that's not necessarily something that requires quadraphony, so if you plan to make it a focus it'd help to understand the goals a bit more.

First row (Substractive synth voice) - VCO, VCA, VCF, Function generator, Sequencer, wavefolder

Second row (Ambiant machine fx) - Clouds, etc

Hi Everyone!

Jeebus, that's a mouthful.

First, thank you all for teaching me so much. I have been reading many of your threads while struggling with VCV and my dying laptop to learn the fundamentals necessary to get into modular.

With COVID, I have to suspend my work in spatialized sound and have chosen to use the time to create a more refined instrument capable of quadrophonic spatialization, so that I may continue developing my understanding of composing with space... Up until now I have only been using DAW-based instruments.

I am hoping you all will give me your thoughts on this modular rack:

It is meant to allow for organic and real-time weaving of controlled/generative ambient and the textures of speech and/or field recordings.

It's my intent to grow into this rack as I hope to eventually perform live, OR record tracks separately to then spatialize for more advanced spatial sound systems... but this is a ways off.

Thanks for reading this harrowingly genuine post! lol. Please, feel free to share any thoughts/concerns you may have. Really hoping to make something special to play with for many years to come.

EDITED Jul 28th 2020, 18:08

Doepfer has some basic patchs examples. If you look at the minimal patch, you will replace the A-190-3 by one track of your SQ-1, the A-110-2 VCO by your E352, the A-130 VCA by one channel of the Tallin or the Quad VCA and the A-140 Env by Contour, Maths or Zadar. If you use Math, plug the gate of the sq-1 in channel 4 trigger and Channel 4 out to the vca CV input. Play with rise and fall to shape the envelope.

EDITED Jul 28th 2020, 21:57

im in the middle of building a eurorack system for ambient/Dark Ambient style.

right now i have chosen as a sequencer the korg sq-1 so i can get to start knowing the different modules i have sofar.

the main sound source in the rack right now is the Synthesis Technology E352,i would like to connect the korg sq-1 into that,and then do the modulation stuff with Maths.

but i cant really get the korg to "control" or "play2 The E352.

any tips on how to connect this up?

Clock from Ableton. Softube Modular running MI Clouds. Pre-sequenced Wurlitzer melody as well as arpeggiated keyboard texture pattern.

Welcome! It's daunting at first and I made a lot of mistakes along the way which resulted in overspending.

First, what kind of sound do you want to make? An acid setup would be vastly different from ambient, etc. Do you want percussion or just a bass machine? Finding some youtube artists you like and studying their setups can help with this.

Second, download VCV Rack and start testing modules. All of the Mutable Instruments modules are in there, as well as a bunch from many other manufacturers. If you find a module in VCV rack that doesn't exactly exist in real life, there's usually a close match (and vice versa). Omri Cohen on YT is a great resource for rigging up real physical modules within VCV Rack in order to test them out BEFORE you buy. Look at the manuals, look at the youtube videos from the manufacturer, look at DivKid or MylarMelodies' reviews. There are a million resources out there to help you avoid buying modules you don't need.

Third, if you really think this is something you'll want to pursue, consider a bigger case. 84hp gets eaten up quick. It might be better to get a bigger case now and fill it up slowly over time than buy a small case and need to get a bigger one within a year. Also consider a pre-built rig like the Make Noise Shared System, one of the Erica Synths cases, or the ALM Shuttle Coupe. Yea, they're expensive, but they're great collections (Those Dreadbox Chromatic modules look pretty good, so you already have the right idea. ) There are also the Moog Mother 32 and DFAM semi-modulars that area really powerful without going broke too!

Good luck! Sorry I can't be more helpful, but those are some basic points you have to address yourself before getting module recommendations.

Instruo Harmonaig would tie those three oscillators nicely. An Expert Sleepers Disting (Mk4 or ES) is a great modular multi-tool. A Low Pass Gate like a Make Noise Optomix will give you different timbres than just using filters. A complex oscillator like DPO or CS-L can produce some great ring mod, AM/FM sounds. I personally love harmonic oscillators like the XAOC Odessa or the Verbos (my fave brand right now) modules and free running LFOs like Erica Synths Black Octasource or the DivKid Ochd.

It all really depends what sounds you want to sculpt though. There are infinite directions to go from here. Analog/digital/subtractive/additive/whatever

While outside FX are nice, I find it much easier to keep everything in the case, especially when there are really great modular solutions. A Mutable Instruments clone called Typhoon (Original MI Clouds firmware + the two alternate firmwares, Kammerl & Parasites), Make Noise Morphagene & ErbeVerb, Strymon Magneto (also a pedal tho) all come to mind and would add some nice depth to the case.

Hi folks,

I'm reaching out to ask for ideas to build on my current set up.

The original plan was to build a powerful 3 oscillator monosynth (done) then proceed to get weird. Sequencing and effects are catered for outside of the case.

If it helps to list inspirations, Synth Sense and DAAT have been in rotation for a hot minute. Long story short, I like it when synths sound like synths, and I'm open to all types of synthesis.

There's a whopping 88hp left in the case. What would you do to fill the space?

Edit: For some reason the third oscillator isn't showing.

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Hello! So I decided to finally go modular :D

I was interested on the NiftyBundle, but I really don't like the VCO (Chipz) sound that much. I understand that it is a simple solution for a beginner like me, but I was hoping to maybe assemble something 'from sracth'

I'd like a case with maybe 84HP, I think it's the perfect size for me - https://www.thomann.de/pt/doepfer_a_100lc3v_low_cost_case_ve.htm

I like this case as it's simple, and looks good and durable.

I am going to sequence the modular system using my Digitakt, so I don't need a sequencer module, but I do need a MIDI module (maybe to CV and Gate ).

I also like the Dreadbox Chromatic Modules, they are cheap, look easy to begin with and sound good imo.
Can someone help me? I don't have a huge budget, and I pretend to slowly add stuff to the rack. I would like to purchase first only the essentials to get some sound going :)

Thank you very much,
Have a great day,
Cheers
-Nico

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