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Hey ! I’m waiting my command ! So I have a ghost , a sofia and an ADSR. If you have a piece of advice about appoint Out , or rythm and frequencie quantizer for techno progressive , I m really interested

EDITED Mar 10th 2023, 17:31

I asked ChatGPT to build a rack for ambient music and layout the modules in a way that makes sense for this kind of music.

It seems to get confused with the module sizes, it would say Clouds is 60hp and then say it's 10hp instead, so this layout doesn't match exactly the one ChatGPT suggested. The original rack had six rows and a lot of empty spaces, which is probably a good idea anyway. I limited it to four rows, other than that, I kept the original order.

The ChatGPT training data goes up to 2021, so it doesn't have any knowledge about newer modules. Aside from that, the rack contains many effect modules, which would make sense for ambient music, but it also has some odd choices. I would have never thought of the Atlantis for this kind of rack, and on the other hand, it seems to lack on the VCA and mixer fronts.

I also asked for some patch examples, as some Redit users are reporting having success with that, but it seems to get confused easily and tells me to send signals to the clock inputs on modules that don't have clock inputs or to send an input from one module to the output of another.

Just as it does with any other topic, it seems to make sense at first, it seems legit, but on closer inspection, it's all wrong. And yet, as crazy as it is, it may be worth asking ChaGPT when looking for new ideas, as some of the replies can lead to out-of-the-box thinking. Kind of like Eno's oblique strategies.

thanks... definitely a few modules I'd never seen before!

given the use case - I'm not convinced of the need for the extra vcos - I think I'd have gone more for audio effects - delay, reverb, lofi etc etc not just a single delay and more modulation and utilities...

EDITED Mar 10th 2023, 13:19

1 can you please copy and paste the url of your public rack... it really helps us help you - jpgs are blurry and there's over 10k of modules - when we can see your actual rack we get mouse over and click through etc... I would have done this for you, but your rack is private...
JimHowell1970

I deprivatized the rack and replaced the original link.

I will definitely consider upgrading my rack. I grabbed this one at a very good discount after dealing with 4MS pods.

possibly still component availability issues

1 can you please copy and paste the url of your public rack... it really helps us help you - jpgs are blurry and there's over 10k of modules - when we can see your actual rack we get mouse over and click through etc... I would have done this for you, but your rack is private...

2 get a bigger case - no plan survives meeting the enemy - you will want more/different modules in the future and usually buying a larger rack to start with saves money in the long term - a tiptop mantis is an excellent starter case

EDITED Mar 10th 2023, 00:33

This is a 58hp, 6u case. The purpose of the rack is to provide utility and processing FX for my PWM Malevolent, which has two oscillators, a mixer, a filter, two ADSR envelopes, and two VCAs.

I also have a 0-CTRL, an Erica Matrix Mixer, and a St. Modular Workbench.

Any feedback welcome.

EDITED Mar 10th 2023, 07:06

-BOMBO - MUTANT BD9:
es trigado por circuit --> black midi --> bd9 --> vuelve a circuit para reverb y volumen
-PICO DRUMS: SYNTH
tengo una serie de synth de legowelt (editados, cortos y largos)
recive trig y cv pitch desde circuit --> black midi -->
--> sale con bajo volumen (se configura para que tenga siempre line volume) --> korg nts (para filtro y fx)
-pico drums y black midi, están en un lateral de la case
-ROLAND SH-01A:
está dentro de la case.
Recibe midi desde circuit y envía (thru) hacia black midi
Sale su audio--> circuit para reverb y volumen
-LA VOZ:
Mediante un preamp, entra directamente a fx aid. Podría salir por un atenuador (fuera de la case) para tener volumen
-PLONK:
-es trigado por pico trig (hay 2 pistas, con distintos patterns de 1,2,3 y 4 pulsos)
-recibe CV para cambiar de sonido de malekko
-recibe un LFO cv, de malekko
-RADIO:
-es trigado por pico trig (una redonda, en el 2 del compas)
-recive CV para cambiar el start, desde malekko
-MALEKKO:
-1 lfo para fx aid ? (o quizás pico dsp)
-cv para radio
-1lfo para plonk
-cv para plonk
-plonk, radio --> pico mixer --> pico dsp

EDITED Mar 9th 2023, 11:42

Everything is always sold out?

Today I installed the first modules and made my first patch. Envelope triggering the springreverb. Springreverb into the filter. Lowpass into the mixer. Highpass into the black hole and black hole into the mixer. Sounds realy haunting just what I was looking for. Stroking the spring with my fingers, feedback, I am verry happy! while i was patching away I realized that another mixer with a gain/overdrive (as a sub) would be verry handy.
-- Niemandsland

nice i just got a Tripple sloth,havent put it in my case yet

Does anyone know if the Current Draw on the CalSynth Rand is the same as the original Marbles? The data is currently blank on the Module's page.

thanks

Very interesting! using four identical modules as a Mixer
-- RaymondHu

Thanks. 2x stereo strips are used for my voices (2x legion thru Steiner VCF as a complex osc for bass, CI thru SSG for melody) and then the other two are used for external gear like drum machines etc because they have pre amps for inputting line level gear. The NE stereo mixers are for delay and reverb sends (stack cables from the stereo strips go into them). Everything is then summed by the ES-9 so you can jam live while recording all the tracks separately. You can also have per-channel side-chain by using time warp as an envelope follower, inverting and offsetting the output with OSD and then inputting that signal into the stereo strip vcas on every channel that you want the side chain to apply. This all took a lot of figuring out but it works incredibly well

EDITED Mar 9th 2023, 13:59

Very interesting! using four identical modules as a Mixer

The Meng Qi passive LPG as well, can't go wrong for $50. If you can spare the space and $350, the Buchla 292t Quad Lopass Gate is coming out any day now.

Hi there,
Ashiko was designed to smoothly modulate an audio signal in the stereo field using only a single CV source.
I suggest you to check out this new demo video by BRiES that goes really deep into Ashiko functionalities:

Federico
Jolin

there is also the passive Takaab lpg

Vaemi's new module XFMR VCA, which is designed for Eurorack systems, introduces users to a transformer-based VCA design.
Turkey-based Vaemi (Volt Age Electronic Musical Instruments), which commercially produces synthesizers and electronic musical instruments, recently released its first module, the Osi-Op (through zero fm VCO), and quickly followed with other Eurorack modules such as Shift Register, R2R Ladder, Buffered Multiple, making a name for itself. Now, it has introduced and brought its users the new XFMR VCA module, which is handcrafted with high-quality, through-hole components and features an audio transformer in its output.
The XFMR VCA is a VCA with linear curves. It has two separate audio outputs, such as the classic Op-Amp and the Transformer Output feature that gives it its name. It is AC Coupled and designed specifically for audio signals, making it a VCA module that you would want to use at the end of your chain. You can use it to add saturation, harmonics, and EQ to your patches made with the Osi-Op and through zero fm techniques, or use it for a clean range if desired. This wide range of options will be loved and make you feel comfortable.
Additionally, the XFMR VCA has an expander that allows you to expand it up to 3 channels. With the expander, you can have two more exponential VCA channels, which you can use for frequency modulation of oscillators or in other places you need them.
In studios, preamplifiers are equipment that can properly raise the microphone or line signals level without distorting or adding noise to the sound. However, when recording analog synthesizers, we tend to lower the sound instead of raising it because they have very high outputs. At this point, we thought that one of the most important things that preamplifiers add to recordings, other than gain, is audio transformers.
The XFMR VCA also has an EQ stage. This will provide great flexibility when finalizing your last patch, especially in multi-channel patches, and will provide a more accurate and clean sound in live performances.
Vaemi aims to create systems that can comfortably be used in today's electronic music and popular synthesis techniques such as additive, FM, Formant, Subtractive synthesis, and will continue to shape and evolve with new module designs that will be released in the coming year.

Please visit our web site for more information www.vaemi.net

Click the link to watch XFMR VCA Demo Videos

• Transformer and Op-Amp Output Stages
• Linear VCA
• 2 Audio Inputs
• 2 CV Inputs
• Saturation and Distortion
• 3 Different Distortion Types
• 3 Band EQ
• Amplitude Modulation (AM)
• AC Coupled
• 2 Channel Exponential VCA Expander (coming soon)

Modulagrid Module Link:
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/vaemi-xfmr-vca

EDITED Mar 7th 2023, 01:44

-BLACK MIDI y PICO DRUM van en el frontal de la case (en el lateral trasero)
-BLACK MIDI:
manda cv y trig para pico drum, probeniente de circuit
-PICO DRUM
tiene los sonidos cargados de synth legowelt, es controlado desde la circuit-->black midi-->pico drum-->pico mix-->pico dsp
-BOMBO- MUTANT BD9:
recibe su trig desde circuit (via audio, o via black midi)
manda su audio-->atenuador-->circuit (aquí tiene su poquito de reverb)
-LA VOZ:
Mediante un preamp de micro, mando la señal directamente a fx aid. Podría salir por un atenuador (fuera de la case) para tener control volumen
-PLONK:
-es trigado por pico trig (hay 2 pistas, con distintos patterns de 1,2,3 y 4 pulsos)
-recibe CV para cambiar de sonido de malekko
-recibe un LFO cv, de malekko
-RADIO:
-es trigado por pico trig (una redonda, en el 2 del compas)
-recive CV para cambiar el start, desde malekko
-MALEKKO:
-1 lfo para fx aid ? (o quizás pico dsp)
-cv para radio
-1lfo para plonk
-cv para plonk
-plonk, radio, pico drum--> mixer pico mix --> pico dsp
-BASS:
Roland sh-1a está dentro de la case, en la parte de abajo, (black midi y pico drums, en realidad van en el frontal de la case)
Su salida midi, se podría poner en midi thru, y mandarla a black midi

-CIRCUIT:
tengo estas pistas:
-Synth1 (podría mandar a yamaha dx)
-Synth 2(manda cv y trig-->black midi--> pico drums)
-BASS --> roland sh
-bombo --> black midi --> mutant
-caja
-platos
-semicorcheas
-perc

EDITED Mar 8th 2023, 20:35

My new video is online! It is a jam with some new modules by Mutable Instruments. It starts out as an ambient piece and then in takes you to unexpected places!

There is also a question that I ask especially for the lovers of modular synth video so could you let me know what you think? I would love your feedback and grow as a content creator of modular synth video's. Thank you so much!

A clock divider from Frequency Central with 4 sub-clocks, which is pretty useful.
Straightforward build, nothing challenging, good mid-level experience ,
And the unit has tons of functionality, I only touch on some during the demo (if I had a 4 input scope I’da covered more, gives me an excuse to buy one). Look at the manual on their web site for all the details, there is a lot going on with this.
Good utility module.
Build

Hi guys

As before, also a newbie, but my problem is that I do not know anything at all. At the moment I try to watch different lessons on YouTube and try to repeat them. I am wondering if there is an online resource where you can try for free how to sound and use different models, or am I just blind?

EDITED May 16th 2023, 12:32

very close to filling my a100 doepfer case!

looking for used monster base case
-- ngocepoo

might be an idea giving us a clue to where you are...

and you might want to look on the modwiggler buy/sell thread - they turn up there occasionally

Subscribed ;-)

A live patch streaming session from last night.

-mowse

very close to filling my a100 doepfer case!

looking for used monster base case

Understood.

But Yeah, I'm not sure that helps or maybe it means I'm actually calibrated alright.
Testing the Beatstep Pro on a regular Oscillator gives me the whole keyboard range without problems.

I wish I could filter/sort by whether a module is in the rack I am currently viewing...
...Not sure how generally useful this feature would be...
-- adamj

+1 from me!

Not really a function but i noticed that it is not possible to filter for polyphonic modules...
may be it makes sense to include polyphony in the function list!?

... the notes are all the same from G upwards...
-- wishbonebrewery

Dont't know if this is helpful...
I tested mine by routing the pitch input through the mordax data voltage monitor.
My Rings takes voltages from 0.0V to 5.54V. Everything higher than 5.54V is ignored.

I've just tried a re-calibrate with the Frequency knob set to 12 o'clock and its made no difference, the notes are all the same from G upwards though going down the octaves is totally fine.

EDITED Mar 5th 2023, 13:57

The Jolin Ashiko seems to be an interesting module. Can anyone tell, if it allows for smooth panning between left and right? Is it possible to smoothly move a sound through the stereo field from one side to the other? Or if it's more like switching: signal is either hard left or hard right? That's not 100% clear from the demo videos available, at least to me. Thanks for helping.

EDITED Mar 5th 2023, 09:40

Yes, I didn't consider module depth for a specific case. It looks like a 4MS Pod20 can support modules up to 34mm deep.

I figured that anything in the rack you posted was fair game for this hypothetical 20HP system.

20HP is a very significant restraint... are you planning on using this small case with others at some point? I personally understand and appreciate the attractiveness of small cases for focusing on and learning specific modules, but 20HP feels much too small as a standalone unit. Do you already own a case or any of these modules? Or are you in the beginning stages of planning out a system? If you are just getting into eurorack, I would recommend getting a larger single case, rather than several miniature ones. This is advice that you will hear quite frequently on these forums.
-- Chace

first 20hp standalone and later with other hp ascending pods, because the restraint random chaotic is ok, i was thinking delta-v, bongo cv and athru

EDITED Mar 5th 2023, 02:55

Yes, I didn't consider module depth for a specific case. It looks like a 4MS Pod20 can support modules up to 34mm deep.

I figured that anything in the rack you posted was fair game for this hypothetical 20HP system.

20HP is a very significant restraint... are you planning on using this small case with others at some point? I personally understand and appreciate the attractiveness of small cases for focusing on and learning specific modules, but 20HP feels much too small as a standalone unit. Do you already own a case or any of these modules? Or are you in the beginning stages of planning out a system? If you are just getting into eurorack, I would recommend getting a larger single case, rather than several miniature ones. This is advice that you will hear quite frequently on these forums.

Thank you for the interesting challenge. This was the most functional and interesting combination that I could come up with in the 20HP limit.
-- Chace

dnipro krait is too deep for pod20, also alm alan will be with its expanders in its owned pod in the future, thank you for your time and knowledge, can you think of one more?

EDITED Mar 4th 2023, 22:42

Really nice design, would look even better with the "Eras" font used on the original Serge modules.

I know - looks rad!

Thank you for the interesting challenge. This was the most functional and interesting combination that I could come up with in the 20HP limit.

I soldered all the bits on a kit from Pusherman https://pushermanproductions.com/product/full-kit-mutated-rings-w-black-aluminium-antumbra-panel-smd-pre-soldered-pcb/ last weekend, followed the calibration procedure and all looked to calibrate ok.
But I notice when playing notes on the Beatstep Pro that the upper keyboard ranges seem to all be the same note passed a certain point which makes me wonder if the Pot positions should be centered or something versus all set at zero prior to calibration.

Any thoughts??

Thanks

what to put into a 4ms pod 20hp from collections, to play or to learn or both, thank you for your valuable time and answer

I would like to see a function category added for modules like the Neuzeit Instruments Quasar and the Joranalogue Audio Design Enhance 2. Perhaps called Stereo Imaging? The closest category right now is Dual/Stereo which brings up dual ADSR's and other unrelated stuff.

https://blackwarriorlures.bandcamp.com/track/a-few-steps-more

Here are the patch notes:

Impermanent Station

BeatStep Pro BPM 100 Project 04 Key C

SEQ 1-5:
Pitch [out] ► Erica Synths Pico VCO [v/oct]
Gate [out] ► Doepfer Dual ADSR Ch. 1 [gate]
SEQ 2-5:
Pitch [out] ► Synthesis Technology Circuit Bent VCO [v/oct]
Gate [out] ► Doepfer Dual ADSR Ch. 2 [gate]
Clock [out] ► Mother 32 [TEMPO]

WMD Triple Bipolar VCA
Mix Out ► Zedi10 Pan L

Erica Synths Pico DSP
L [out] ►WMD TB VCA Ch.1 [in]

Doepfer A-115 DIV
[out] ►Doepfer A-124 VCF5 Wasp [in]

Rebel Technology Stoicheia
Ch.1 Fast [out] ►Maths Ch.4 [in]
Ch.2 Slow [out] ►Intellijel Scales [TRIG in]

Clouds
Out L ► AI Synthesis Quad VCA Ch. 1

Erica Synths Pico VCO
[out] ► Doepfer A-115 DIV [in]

Circuit Bent VCO
Audio ► Joranalogue Filter 8 Ch.1 [in]

Wogglebug
Stepped S&H ► Maths Ch.3 [in]

Maths
Ch.3 [out] ► Scales [PITCH in]
Ch.4 [unity out] ► Quad VCA Ch. 1 [cv in]
Ch.4 [EOC] ►Mutable Instruments Clouds [FREEZE in]

Mother 32
VCA ► Mimeophon [in L]
Gate [out] ►Mult [in]
Mult 1 [out] ► Wogglebug [SPEED in]
Mult 2 [out] ► Stoicheia Ch.1 [in]
ASSIGN [out] ► DFAM [ADV/CLOCK in]

Plaits Orange Preset 2
Plaits [Out] ► Clouds [L in]

Synthesis Technology Quad VCA
Mix Out ► Zedi10 Pan R
Ch. 1 [out] ► Cockpit^2 Ch.2 [in]

Instruō øchd
LFO 2 ► Plaits [TIMBER cv in]

Doepfer A-124 Wasp
LP [out] ► Pico DSP [in]

Endorphin.es Cockpit2
Mix [out] ► Zedi10 Pan C

Endorpin.es Milky Way
Ch.1 [out] ► Quad VCA Ch.2 [in]

Jornalogue Filter 8
180 [out] ► Milky Way Ch.1 [in]

Doepfer A-140-2 Dual Mini ADSR
Ch.1 [out 1] ► WMD TB VCA [cv in]
Ch.2 [out 1] ► Quad VCA Ch.2 [cv in]

DFAM
VCA [out] ► Cockpit^2 Ch.1 [in]
PITCH [out] ► VCF MOD [in]
VCO EG [out] ►NOISE LEVEL [in]

I usually keep the gain on the OT mixer page at -30. Sounds good to me!

How well does Octatrack handle modular level signal? You may find that you need a few modules to step down to line level or instrument level. I don't have an Octatrack so I have no idea if the modular signal is too hot or clips.

Going for mainly an effects rack that I can feed into an octatrack

4 outputs of yarns go into a a bunch of external gear that will be fed into the zlob/erica mixers.

Basically Ch1-4 of the clump will be fed by the erica and zlob mixers. Outputs of the matrix mixer will go to a sherman filter bank, beads, electus, the zlob fixed filter bank.

Those ouputs will go into an octatrack and then into the vortices along two machinedrum tracks (6 total)

I guess I'm losing a lot of cool stereo stuff so if there is a smarter way to route this with other modules or anything I'd love some suggestions

any help would be super appreciated!

EDITED Mar 7th 2023, 05:46

Hello!

This is Oğul Köker from Turkey. I'm currently in Edinburgh to research the creative practices of Eurorack enthusiasts in Edinburgh and Glasgow.

If you'd be interested in participating in (online or offline) interviews and studio tours, please send me a message!

Your expertise level or the size of your collection doesn’t matter. If you like Eurorack synthesisers, let’s meet!

I'd also like to attend events where you perform with your Eurorack setups! So, please let me know about them.

Oğul Köker
PhD candidate and research assistant @ Istanbul Technical University
Visiting researcher @ Edinburgh Napier University

This is the full track I made with the Tesla coil and Mother 32 bass line with a DFAM backing. The one I posted earlier was the "making of" video. This is just the finished result. I would love a like if you think its cool.

A bigger case.
Once again, we have to underline this other advice from @JimHowell1970 who, with great laudable persistence, tries to remind the necessity of these modules throughout the pages of this forum; and you know what : he is right!

EDITED Mar 2nd 2023, 12:25

A bigger case.

As @JimHowell1970 says 'either start with a bigger case or massively scale back what you are trying to do’.
And as you can see, all the people here will advise you to do the former. We say this with the full knowledge of the facts... and to really save you any frustration afterwards.

Utilities and modulation sources.

Once again, we have to underline this other advice from @JimHowell1970 who, with great laudable persistence, tries to remind the necessity of these modules throughout the pages of this forum; and you know what : he is right!

Can you imagine a film with just a few stars and no supporting cast, no extras, not even a little furniture in the set? This is the unconscious bet and the mistake we all make a little too systematically when we approach the modular synthesizer and in front of all its big stars (Clouds, Rings, Morphagene, Basimilus, Bloom, etc.)

Nothing really important to add to what others have said here.
Modular is a bit like cinema. ModularGrid is not the USC School of Cinematic Arts, or the Ecole Nationale Louis-Lumière. But you've come to the right place. The amateurs and even the less amateurs have almost all passed through the benches of ModularGrid :))
Welcome!

ESTA REPRESENTACIÓN SERVIRÍA PARA VARIOS TIPOS DE SET: para tekno, laberinttto, death in venice.
Se supone que arriba iría la dfam o la SH (la sh, en Venice)
Todo lo que está en la hilera de arriba se va a la case eowave
Lo que está en la hilera de abajo se queda

EDITED Sep 9th 2023, 13:37