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Hey Mate,
you clearly have a preference for Noise Engineering - fantastic gritty sound and amazing modular concept behind their design! Congrats on that clarity of yours.
If the above is correct, why you prefer ErbeVerb over the Desmodus Versio?
Why double BIA?
Why double MD?
Why double MSCL?

Looking at all your voices, you might need sub mixers.
Lastly I love your choice on Numeric AND Zularic Repetitor - they together with the BIA are a blow away.


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Hey Mate,
you clearly have a preference for Noise Engineering - fantastic gritty sound and amazing modular concept behind their design! Congrats on that clarity of yours.
If the above is correct, why you prefer ErbeVerb over the Desmodus Versio?
Why double BIA?
Why double MD?
Why double MSCL?

Looking at all your voices, you might need sub mixers.
Lastly I love your choice on Numeric AND Zularic Repetitor - they together with the BIA are a blow away.
-- t0b1

Hi,

I just copied a modulargrid from a googlesearch, as I said I want more of a complete system that someone else will choose for me because otherwise I will just read about all modules that exist and never buy anything.

Do you have some submixer that you recommend? I can free space and choose 1 bia, 1 md, 1 mscl


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Im very happy to consider to change and some help of this since this is my first rack,

much appriciated!


An alternative approach is to start small and organically build out based on what you feel would add most to your sound and workflow.

After playing with, say 3 core modules you'll get an idea of what is needed to get to the next level - and that will also encourage you to push your modules to their limit.

Having a big budget to work with is a real gift, but spending it gradually will give you a very personal journey.

EDIT: I'm certainly not an expert in Eurorack or NE modules, but to me it seems there's a bit of duplication in this system and possibly some simple things missing that are kind of core to modular - eg lfos, vcas, envelopes.

It looks like some of the modules in this system might build that into the module, and overall it seems geared towards triggering percussive sounds which is cool. But you might also find that a bit boring? I say that as a techno-leaning person myself :)

I'd still say start small. Choose a single sound source (eg BIA), one trigger source, a modulation source or two (Clep Diaz seems like a well regarded Noise Engineering module), and a CV mixer and see how you get on. You may not be making very layered tracks to start with but that's ok.

Also a very useful module to consider is a low pass gate (kind of a filter and VCA in one) that can instantly turn any sound into a nice organic percussive sound. I'm not sure what NE make in this area.

Good luck.


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Thanks for answer, so you suggest of start with 1 x bia, 1 x md?


Thanks for answer, so you suggest of start with 1 x bia, 1 x md?
-- dvdvb

Ah I just responded while you were writing this. I'm no expert but yes those seem like a good place to start, maybe with a couple of other things.

I'm sure others will be have more informed opinions than mine :)


I wouldn't build that. Not for a minute. First of all, I really have a major hate for panels that look like eyestrain waiting to happen. And the first time you take that rig out and gig live with it, in typical live gig lighting, you'll hate them too. Second of all, although it's a theoretically "complete" build from MG, that still doesn't make it a correctly-implemented build. Whoever cooked this up did a decent job on sources, decent enough on modulation, and just sort of screwed off where it comes to the utilities and other support modules. As a result, what you have here is a box of noisemakers, but scant else to turn those into a proper synthesizer.

One other point: what you want to do with this one box is probably beyond the scope of this one box. This is why quite a few of us who've been around this for a while keep saying "work the build out on MG FIRST...THEN start playing with the money!" So...you sold your gear off (save for the Pulsar) before sorting out how to proceed. Of all of the mistakes thus far, THAT is the biggest one. Before, you probably had everything you actually needed, but fell into the "familiarity breeds contempt" trap. It's not possible to stay viable in music...especially not these days...and make impulsive decisions. This one quote here actually describes the situation you feel you're in, and it speaks volumes: "I just copied a modulargrid from a googlesearch, as I said I want more of a complete system that someone else will choose for me because otherwise I will just read about all modules that exist and never buy anything."

Soooooo...you're perfectly content with other people coming up with your music for you, defining your work parameters, and such? That doesn't sound like a sensible plan, and bluntly, I wouldn't want to hear what you're doing if this is the case. Learn to do YOUR music, sort out YOUR hardware issues, and so on. Otherwise, you're wasting your time.


I'll second @Lugia, start small and really research the modules that work for what you're trying to do. Once you've got that smaller system in place, see if you then have the necessary knowledge and continued desire to expand that system. Eurorack is the wrong habit to pick up if you're going to let someone else design your system.


Yep, take it easy there!!

Start small and build as you learn is a much better approach, you will still make mistakes and that is okay, but they will be less expensive and less frustrating in the long run.

I would recommend that you still buy the big case and some blank panels, even cardboard will do in a pinch!

Then sort out ONE subtractive synth voice comprising: An oscillator, envelope, VCA, LFO, a filter and something to sequence it!

If you choose a complex oscillator you will also be able to create patches for FM synthesis.

You will be able to create every kind of sound on your list with just these few tools if you learn how to create these sounds from scratch.

You may be amazed at what is possible with just a few modules.

once you understand this, then add FX - I don't think it is a good idea when learning to drop reverb on everything, I would hold back and really listen to what is going on first. Okay okay... buy the reverb and have some fun, but don't skip these beginner lessons!

Once you feel like you have a good handle on this subtractive voice, you will realise what you need add to it to get where you want to be, so for example, you might want richer bass sounds, so you could add a wave folder, or you might realise that you want a source of random or different colours of noise and some FX.

Then finally start looking at specialist dedicated modules for specific tasks, e.g. dedicated drum modules and texture synthesisers.

Of course it's entirely up to you, but I never see people rushing out and buying a lot of exotic modules having too good a time in the long run, they always end up back at these first steps somewhere along their journey.

Good luck and have fun!

p.s. I am envious of your Pulsar-23 :D

I am taking commissions for module builds again - finally!! DM for details :)

Tapographic FS or TRADE - whatcha got?

You can find my modular synth album here https://kel-audio.bandcamp.com - enjoy!

Like others mention, buy a big case BUT only a few modules. Take time, learn each deeply. Maybe something like this:

1x BIA- I have one and love it!
support modules
filter
another VCO to complement the BIA for basslines, etc.

Here is an example:

ModularGrid Rack

I added the Noise Engineering modules for most of the essentials: clock, attenuator, mixer, LFO for modulation as well as a filter and synth voice to complement the BIA since Loquelic Iteritas Percido is pure awesome for many things.


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Like others mention, buy a big case BUT only a few modules. Take time, learn each deeply. Maybe something like this:

1x BIA- I have one and love it!
support modules
filter
another VCO to complement the BIA for basslines, etc.

Here is an example:

ModularGrid Rack

I added the Noise Engineering modules for most of the essentials: clock, attenuator, mixer, LFO for modulation as well as a filter and synth voice to complement the BIA since Loquelic Iteritas Percido is pure awesome for many things.
-- sacguy71

Thank you! I will check this up, thinking of adding maybe a alm pamelas workout, will def check your recommendation