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Thanks Jim ;

Here is the link :

I already tried vcvrack, mirack legacy and other stuff but need to try physical.
The 44 x 4 is a start but I want it to be my first system, practical to travel with,
train and go deep into 1 or another module, maybe play for friends time to time or in the street...

After that, I'll consider to invest more, will surely buy something like intellijel palette case and then manage a room space for the suite, if I want it growing more as a studio practice/laboratory for preparing next nomad period.

So it's important to me, so far, to think with my budget ; the system you saw will take me all the year rest to buy.
That's why I have no need to worry about the lake of space at the moment ;)

EDITED May 6th 2022, 05:20

Well, let's see...part of the problem is that you're rather dependent in this build on BIG modules...which take up quite a bit of space. Instead, work on how to accomplish the same thing in LESS space.

The Strymon, for example...there's not an exact replacement in stompboxes, but the ability to USE stompboxes might be very much of use here. So if the Starlab costs $650 (it does) and robs 28 hp, it might make far more sense to use a couple of Strymon AA.1 modules...which then allow you to connect two different pedals of all sorts. This also keeps you from being too dependent on that single module. Tossing it also opens a lot of room; even with two AA.1 expanders, you still gain 20 hp.

Another problem is the Akemie's. Algorithmic FM, done right, involves a number of envelope gens. So not only would you have all that space taken up by the Akemie's itself, you'd ALSO have to have space for a quad function gen such as an Intellijel Quadrax or a Tiptop/Buchla 281t. In short, a FULL Akemie's implementation would take a PILE of space. And 2hp's stuff is OK...but poses a serious ergonomics problem when you start stacking them up, making the controls too tightly spaced for easy use.

As for the chord pads...if you try and implement that in a test build here, you'll quickly find why polyphony and modular can be a really bad mix. You're better off getting a real polysynth; I suggest the Modal Argon8, myself...not too spendy, plus the synth engine is a wavetable BEAST.

Anyway, the case is right...we often recommend Tiptop's Mantis on here for first builds because they're solid, they've got decent power, and you get 40 more hp in a 2 x 104. Let's see what I can cough up here... (several hours later...)

OK, this should work...and amusingly, this full cab only costs about $300 more than the previous unfinished one.

This has everything you'll need for a "core system". Anything from that point is additional. And there are some real surprises in here...

TOP: Starts off with an audio input, with envelope following AND an onboard P-to-V converter. This allows you to control things from any monophonic source. Then for the "main" oscillator, I went with an SSF Zero Point Oscillator. This has a lot in common with Intellijel's Rubicon2...except for the space required. After that are two Klavis Twin Waves mkii, which are dual wavetable oscillators with internal quantizing. This gives you a total of (technically) SIX oscillators. After all of that, a Void Modular Hexagram crams six VCAs into one module, with a "breakable" mixbus so that certain sources can be isolated if needed. Then for VCFs, I put in a Tiptop Forbidden Planet and a G-Storm Delta VCF. The former is a reproduction of the infamous Steiner Synthacon multimode, with HPF and BPF capabilities that can turn basic lead lines into something aggressive and in-yer-face. But the latter filter is much calmer...an SSM design based on the VCFs in the Korg Delta and, later on, their Poly-61. A Veils provides VCA control over levels being sent to the Alyseum Q-Mix, which is a four-channel pannable stereo mixer. For effects, a Frequency Central Stasis Leak gives you mono-to-stereo versions of tap tempo delay, stereo chorus, and reverb, and then Mutable's Beads lets you screw around with the entire mix via its granular processing. Last up is your output module, which has transformer isolation for the stereo outs as well as your headphone preamp. So, that's the "voice" path...leaving only...

BOTTOM: Konstant Labs PWRchekr starts things off so that you get a visual readout on your DC rail health. Then Pam's, followed by a Qu-bit NanoRand v.2 which gives you a sizable artillery of random sources, etc. And then after that is a very interesting pair of modules from Stochastic Instruments: their Stochastic Inspiration Generator plus the expansion module that gives you independent control of all four of the SIG's tracks. This is a melodic pattern generator that uses stochastic processes to generate melodic lines, with the occurance of each pitch being weighted by the chromatic set of sliders. Following this is SSF's awesome little utility module, the Tool Box. Then we get into modulation sources, starting with a Xaoc Batumi + the Poti expander, Maths, and a Quadrax/Qx pair. But as for the small modules after the Maths, those allow you to manipulate the behavior of modulation signals...so there's a Frap 321 for mixing/crossmodulating/offset generation/and so on, then a Happy Nerding (stay safe over there, dude!) 3xVCA for a trio of linear VCAs to control modulation levels.

Now, this seems a lot more sensible. Not much in the way of oversized modules, and the functionality is REALLY jacked-up from what was there before. And like I said, it takes the price of the previous unfinished build and only adds about $300 while, at the same time, filling the cab out completely.

One other thing you really should get and mess with before incinerating the Magic Plastic on this, and that would be to get a copy of VCV Rack. It's FREE...has software models of some of the hardware modules on MG, and works pretty much like yr.basic modular. Just remember: it wants a LOT of CPU power to really cut loose, but if you've got a computer made since the mid-2000s, you should be cool. https://vcvrack.com/

NB: for some reason, MG is only showing a link to the build on my end, not the actual build screenshot. Click on the link if you don't see the build in the post.

EDITED May 6th 2022, 05:38

BTW, the best solution for the extra 1 hp space that odd-count modules cause is to use at least one of those spaces to put in a Konstant Labs PWRchekr. It really IS the most useful 1 hp module of all time if you have a power supply with no DC rail indicators. The PWRchekr tracks the DC rail voltages and gives you visual feedback if there's a malfunction...and all for about $25, which puts it into the STOOPID-CHEAP zone!

I picked up the g storm jupiter 4 chorus and not feeling it yet. Wonder if I’m not giving it edgy enough PWN to get the Jp4. I’m very curious about this new phasor.
-- t4mber

The JP-4 chorus is just one part of the JP-4 sound. The other, and just as important, factor is that the synth could overdrive its output stage. Try using something that adds some grit to the signal before it hits the G-Storm. That should get you a LOT closer.

please post the actual link to your public rack - copy and paste the url!!!

jpgs are next to useless!

get a much bigger case: that way you build in room to expand (you will need it)

if you want to just experiment with modular before buying then try vcvrack

Hello everyone,

I have that crazy idea that I could tie enough possibilities into that seed-format to turn it interesting to play with and also to ear.

Here is the result of many many migraines : https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_1891049.jpg

Of course I have many directions to enlarge or build after that system, for me it's a check point to experiment how modular synth fit to me...

If it does, I'll consider more fat and powerful stuff to keep playing.

I'm more into dirty ambiant, experimental and noise.

For the complex mixing I may choose an outside solution for that later (could be erica synth's matrix mixer)...
as well for sequencing (not my priority need), I could choose later inner solutions but will surely try to find a ndlr (conductive labs).

Thanks for any comments about :
- what you think is not there but is absolutely necessary...
- the buying order I should choose to make it fun as quick as possible...

Cheers

EDITED May 5th 2022, 20:51

Manual can be found here: https://www.endorphin.es/modules/p/grand-terminal
-- farkas

Thanks will have a read

Maths Channels 1 and 4 are very useful for me , efficient ,snappy etc. a lot of tricks and ways to use it , west coast style .I didnt like the results i had with it as an enveloppe follower and it is a bit large if i need only one channel . May get another one channel Serge inspired function generator instead( After Later Audio Tilt maybe) if i find a report of compared efficiency with Maths. Well , size was the motive to let go of the QMMD , which i can of regret so...
But i have to mention the WMD Multimode Enveloppe , (have 2 ,one with expander for CV and pulse out for all stages) It is not an easy one at first as controls on Attack, Decay and release are the opposite way of "usual" enveloppes : longer time =lower RATE so CCW on the pot... Also the modes pot is not incremented and has no less than 9 different modes from AR to ADAR cy. (!) So these are the drawbacks but you have shape for A ,D,R from expo to log thru linear, 0 to 8V out. -8 to +8V out and inverse +8 to -8V . and that can be very useful , especially with a bipolar VCA like its excellent counterpart the WMD Multimode VCA (double channel) which is a very clean VCA with huge headroom (theres a built in saturation helper if needed though)and Fade /Pan functions , AM with ring mod feel , Expo or linear modes with all the outputs you'd need , A , B , sum and inversed ones.

The MMEnv -8 to 8V also gives good punch with some filters i have , even though the CV ins in those should only react to positive voltages i guess, maybe the little delay involved in the stages when going from neg to pos voltages . Anyhow , going bipolar does not reduce the voltage by half as its usually the case , it uses the symmetric PSU capabilities to the max , as does the headroom on the MMVCA . Check out their specs , they are awesome

Manual can be found here: https://www.endorphin.es/modules/p/grand-terminal

EDITED May 5th 2022, 16:46

This is comedy gold.

Erica Synths has a series of educational modules for learning about electronic music generation. I’ll be doing all of them, and we started with their EDU oscillator. Next is this one, their simple envelope generator. Even if you don’t buy the kit, I recommend you download the user manual, it’s a great practical guide to electronics in music.

EDU envelope generator build

Use the reverb and delay on different sounds at the same time?

Havent really dived into this module yet

P.s i also have the expander for it

Hi Lugia, sorry it's taken me a few days to reply and thank you for this.
The modules you have included to mess with the sequencer are really interesting. Particularly Ladik, which I'm going to buy quite a few modules from. One question, the sequential count module is pretty much impossible to get hold of and there are no videos etc. Can you explain exactly what it does and maybe suggest an alternative ?

Thanks again

Thanks for sharing your patches and ideas! Lots of great tones in there that I would like to explore myself.

Thank you Chace, glad you enjoyed!

You also have a very nice voice to listen to. How would you describe your accent?
-- Chace

I beg to differ, but I guess that‘s not too uncommon :D. I don‘t know how to describe my accent really. I‘m from an Area in Germany fairly close to France and I did my Bachelors Degree with a British University so that’s that.

Is there a global view for all the racks?
-- beat4less

I hope someone chimes in to say there is, because that would be a lot more helpful. Maybe in a different colour.

Alright I see ! Thank you.
Is there a global view for all the racks?

On the Module Finder, in either the All Modules or the My Modules tabs, you'll see a green icon at the top right corner of the modules you have on your currently selected rack. The number indicating how many instances you've got.

EDITED May 5th 2022, 07:26

Thanks for sharing your patches and ideas! Lots of great tones in there that I would like to explore myself.
You also have a very nice voice to listen to. How would you describe your accent?

he was trying to get out of Ukraine

Oh Happy Nerding is in Ukraine? Yikes... Well I hope they can get out, or at least stay safe.

I might just opt for a Pico DSP since I actually already have a Nin (also 3HP) but ran out of space due to another change of plans (because of Mutable Instruments ramping down production and me having a bit of a freak out and buying things I planned to get after a second case). Plus, the Pico is relatively inexpensive, and I can actually buy one! So it's got that going for it.

I'll probably still try to get the FX AID XL and/or another MFX, and worst case I own "too many" modules. I'm going to expand into a second case at some point, and it's not a big deal to switch around the rack and swap modules once in a while. Or sell some.

It is becoming difficult to tell if I am succumbing to eurocrack/GAS or if I'm being smart & strategic in buying modules aggressively because things are so hard to get. The lines are blurry.

EDITED Feb 27th 2023, 07:02

Did you upgrade the firmware on the MFX to VER 102?
https://busycircuits.com/firmware/alm032/

Yes I was on the latest version. I was in contact with both the manufacturer and the retailer and everyone agreed the module seemed faulty and should be returned to the retailer.

Thanks @farkas! The FX Aid XL was a top contender. I almost got it instead of an MFX. Unfortunately it now looks like it is also sold out everywhere. A place I usually buy from had it a week or two ago :(

I found one retailer in England selling it but it looks like they won't ship to me in the US. Sigh... the module availability situation is getting extremely frustrating. I'll keep looking. Or maybe I'll go with one of the other options, or reconsider if I even need multi effects right now.

EDITED Feb 27th 2023, 07:02

Sorry to hear about your ALM trouble. That’s a bummer.
I have the Milky Way and FX Aid XL. I like the reverbs and ping pong delay on the Milky Way but don’t use it often for any of the other effects. The FX Aid algorithms are really good and I think I flashed it two or three different times to find a combination of effects that I’m sticking with. I’ve found it to be much better for effects that can transform a patch into something completely different, while the Milky Way is ok for more “bread and butter” end of chain reverbs and delays.
If I had to recommend one, I would say go for the FX Aid XL.
Have fun and good luck!
*edit: I sold my Disting. Just really didn’t enjoy using it. Tweaking it to get the sound I wanted was less than ideal.

EDITED May 4th 2022, 18:58

I recently acquired an ALM MFX, which I'm sure I would have been very happy with, but I got unlucky and my module is faulty and I have to send it back. Unfortunately, the retailer is now out of stock and it's out of stock ~everywhere. I have not had much luck pre-ordering modules: I've been waiting for months on several things and probably have to wait many more months, if ever (I'm looking at you, Intellijel Quadrax).

Anyway, I think I'll want to get a multi effects module in the near term, so instead of waiting for another batch of ALM MFXs, I was considering the following:

• Expert Sleepers Disting EX (I have a regular Disting but I need more flexibility if it's going to be my main multi-FX + misc. utility module)
• Endorphin.es Milky Way
• Happy Nerding FX Aid XL
• Eric Synths Pico DSP
• Tiptop Audio Z5000

Things I am looking for:

• Stereo output. Mono -> stereo FX programs are probably a must. The option for stereo -> stereo is a big plus.
• At least some good delay, reverb, and distortion options. Other stuff like phasers, chorus, bit crushers, are all great too, but I can live without some of these things.
• Flexible CV control. The Pico DSP probably won't cut it, but the smaller size might make up for it to free up some room for another 3HP module (the Nin expander for my Xaoc Zadar).
• Ideally 6 HP or less. The Disting EX is ok at 8HP because I'll replace my regular Disting in this rack. The Tiptop Z5000 probably isn't going to work unless I decide it's worth removing another module.
• I don't want to be overwhelmed with too many options or the need to re-flash the module a lot, so I am hesitant about the FX Aid, but maybe it's a wonderful module and I should be open-minded about it. (I was worried I'd find the Disting too difficult to use, but it's been fine for me.)

Does anyone have experience with these modules and can offer some thoughts on how they compare or make a recommendation on one you love? I'm open to other options too.

Hey Ppl,
So I got a question regarding the Mutable Music Weasel and Tides as a VCDO.
Since I feel Tides as an audio-rate oscillator is a much less explored topic than say Plaits. I thought I'd try and make a Video about it.
The Video consists of 8 very basic patches.

This is my first Upload ever so don't expect some type of golden Content without errors, yet I thought I'd share it here.
Hope it's not to0 painful to watch.

Best
Chris

EDITED May 4th 2022, 17:01

Thank you all for your expertize, it is much apprechiated and very helpful indeed !

Wow, moduarfreq, I like that a lot. Balance, structure, mood...almost perfect. At the end of every track I'm working on, when everything is getting more and more broad, I resolve to work with fewer elements next time. Next time, I'll listen to that again at the beginning to be inspired by its minimalism.

I'm listening to it again while I'm writing, so cool when you think it's getting quieter and then the bass is added. Really beautifull.

Thank you :)

Hi,
I'm sure I could find the info in the forum but I can't so...
How can we access to the "Module Rack Track" Unicorn feature ?
As it says : "Which of your modules are already assigned to a rack?" https://www.modulargrid.net/e/users/pro_index
Greetings

And another method: use an adder. Adders are what they sound like: they add one voltage value to another. So if you used an adder and inputted the CV for the M32 AND a negative DC offset, you'd get the same lowered result as the PICO module. In fact, a bit more flexible...since you can specify the offset voltage, while the PICO module has no such control.
-- Lugia

Ok thanks I got a precision adder in my wishlist.

Also concerning my issue, th mother 32 as a kind of octve setup with lfo,
using the keyboard lfo seems going lower or higher. (sorry if it's not well explain)

Their are some quotes in Avatar's user
that I keep in mind since I began modular. (About utilites)

I know my modules can be 'crappy' but even I like them.

I will try to post/search a thread about subharmonicon.

Thanks.

My New ambient composition for eurorack modular synthesizer based on voice modulations and samples.
Bitbox Micro is playing some pre-recorded samples, while I use some vcos as solo voices.
More explanations below video on YouTube.

Track was created for the fundraiser compilation of experimental electronic music from Ukraine called "Liberty".
The compilation was made during the war in Ukraine. All profits go to charities and support of Ukrainians.
Link to full compilation below video on YouTube.

Any opinions or high end unity mixers? I need to sum tracks to subgroups into my sound card and hoping to keep the signal path intact. I’m sending from Frap CGM. Nearly sprung for more 2hp unity’s but realized Frap has the 333 - and lo and behold it has some serious caps on the back B) Cheers

I picked up the g storm jupiter 4 chorus and not feeling it yet. Wonder if I’m not giving it edgy enough PWN to get the Jp4. I’m very curious about this new phasor. Not sure anything could bump Kamieniec from my “greatest module of all time” tho

quick sketch of base drum setup

Just for fun here is what I came up with for a small percussion focused setup with Tesseract Tukra as sequencer/percussion voice and support utilities:

Cost: About 3k including case/power/modules if buy on sale from retailer with 10% discount and free shipping.

In comparison, the Elektron Rytm MK2 and Jomox Alphabase cost about half that price.

This was an insta-buy for me first thing this morning. I've been mulling over Kamieniec, K-Phaser, or a Small Stone pedal for the last few weeks. G Man knew exactly what I needed. Should be here on Thursday, so I'll report back with my thoughts.

Or should this be a nifty OLD phase shifter?
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/g-storm-electro-polychrome-phaser
Mmm-hmm...the phaser from a rare AF Farfisa synth from the late 1970s. Six stages, and it looks like way too much fun to just be crammed into 4 hp...but there it is! If you're thinking about adding a phaser to your build, I think this one deserves a look-see.

I edited this for clarity. I'm looking for help figuring out what I need to squeeze the sounds, patterns and styles I want to make.

I'm new to Eurorack but been reading/watching for a couple weeks.

General reasons for my build.
-I like outer-space, ambient, droning sounds
-I like 80s Retrowave
-I like bending 'real' sounds and mixing that with electronic sounds
-I want to incorporate a mic with vocals and have the ability to alter my voice and layer different lines. For instance throw in some background vocals I could put on repeat and manipulate or start/stop on the fly and then sing lead vocals as well.
-I want to record live to cassette tape

I'd like to create multi-track choruses. Really synth-y, punchy chorus lines that feel big.

Some specific ideas I had are likely going to sound silly, but... I'd love to be able to experiment with modules like Pluck where I could create separate instances.

so I could have many strings being plucked and be able to adjust the pitch/tempo/etc of each of those individual sounds, offset them from each other and create a kind of noise-garden (as if someone was just banging around on a guitar).

I want to be able to create random patterns, but with the ability to control them as much as I wish and sync them to specific timing and keys.

So. I also left room in the rack for, undoubtedly, utility mods that I haven't thought of or don't even know I need.

I'm sorry. I just don't have the lingo or enough knowledge to make more sense.

Thank you.

EDITED May 5th 2022, 18:57

I mentioned these in another thread, but they apply here, too: Delptronics' LDB-2 modules. In 12 hp (2 x 6 hp modules), you get a good complement of analog electronic percussion, mainly derived from classic Roland and Boss sources. Those two modules also only cost about $350; add a suitable sequencer, and you've got several electro voices in a tiny space.

And another method: use an adder. Adders are what they sound like: they add one voltage value to another. So if you used an adder and inputted the CV for the M32 AND a negative DC offset, you'd get the same lowered result as the PICO module. In fact, a bit more flexible...since you can specify the offset voltage, while the PICO module has no such control.

Drum machine way cheaper than modular drums but if you want modular drums the key is really a good sequencer like the Winter Modular Eloquencer that is great for sequencing drums. You could get Queen of Pentacles or Quad Drum and have all drums in one module and use a sequencer for that part.
-- sacguy71

Another killer electronic percussion module (pair): Delptronic's LDB-2 pair. The "voices" are in one 6 hp module, and the "controls" in another 6 hp module that interfaces with the first. And it's not like these sounds haven't been "road tested"; some of them derive from super-desirable machines such as the Roland CR-78, TR-606, or the Boss DR-110. CLASSIC electro sounds! These, plus a suitable sequencer (Tubbutec's 6quencer, which is based on the 606's) and you're in at around $500-ish...which is actually not too far removed from the prices on Roland's "boutique" stuff. THAT, I would endorse. Plus, with it AND a drum machine, you can lock the machine to your clock for the "straightforward" drums, then add some LDB-2 sounds as accents or as a voice of its own (such as the hihats...that "chippy" trap hat sound relies on the TR-606's sound).

Thank you everyone for the suggestions!

@RZRO awesome, and thanks for the tip about the dedicated output. I'll save on that at the moment to add some logic or sequencer.

Pamelas New Workout & Varigate 4+ (or Steppy) instead of Circles
-- 33PO

Yeah I was considering Varigate 4+ as well, maybe it could be more versatile. Circles looks fun as hell, but it doesn't provide too many options or modulation inputs.
I was also thinking about Pamela (or maybe Make Noise Tempi?) but I'm a bit concerned about the menu diving...

Look at various modules to alter gate lengths and/or positions, then Boolean logic to use those gates to derive new rhythms from the gate interactions. There's also some modules that come in handy with clock tampering, such as comparators (they send a gate when CV fed through it exceeds a given level), discriminators such as min/max modules, directional CV trackers (these send a gate depending on CV movement...up, down, same) and so on. Putting a suitable "library" of these sorts of modules together with a suitable master clock for everything is a big key to getting some wild hits, crossrhythms, and the like.
-- Lugia

This is honestly super interesting, I didn't know half of the things you have mentioned even existed. Do you have any suggestions for putting together some of these logic and gate combiners?

You could save space and money in your rack by getting an all in one drum synth and sequencer like Tukra
https://www.tesseractmodular.com/eurorack-modules/tukra
-- sacguy71

This also looks super cool, thanks!

EDITED May 2nd 2022, 22:45

@33PO you are welcome! It is on my wish list as love their modules from demos. Also like Queen of Pentacles and DFAM is fun as well.

Experiment to clock all three modular together

You could save space and money in your rack by getting an all in one drum synth and sequencer like Tukra
https://www.tesseractmodular.com/eurorack-modules/tukra

Gives you 8 drum voices and sequencer in one module not bad price either. Then you only need a quad VCA and few utilities.
-- sacguy71

Whoah... This is awesome. Thanks for sharing

You could save space and money in your rack by getting an all in one drum synth and sequencer like Tukra
https://www.tesseractmodular.com/eurorack-modules/tukra

Gives you 8 drum voices and sequencer in one module not bad price either. Then you only need a quad VCA and few utilities.

Using the VCA inputs on the SSF Vortices as Mutes by sticking patch leads into them. Bit of a bodge in the middle where I decided it was a good idea (it wasn't) to bring in the Error Instruments Indian Resonator.

Cheers for listening :)

Hmmm...first up, lose the Moogs. Put them back in their cases and on their own power, as they take up way too much space given the functions you get. Plus, you can mount the Moog skiffs into their own multi-tier stand, like this: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Mother32Rk3--moog-3-tier-rack-kit-for-mother-32-dfam

Next, toss the multiple. This build is too small to support having functional space lost to mults, and you'll do better with stackcables or inline mult widgets. These really should be in larger systems, especially since you've got enough "real estate" for them. Also, buffered mults are mainly for regenerating CVs for distribution to CV destinations such as VCF cutoff, VCO frequency, etc, and there's not enough of that going on here.

The case is confusing...is this an Arturia cab, with a 6U on top and a 3U on the bottom, or...?

As for the pitch weirdness, try turning the coarse pitch control down to about halfway and then using the fine control to straighten out the tuning. Also, the Moogs have an interesting issue in that they're not 100% Eurorack-compatible, and they require one of these: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/erica-synths-pico-mscale to straighten out the issue. That 3 hp module shifts the CVs downward or upward so that they work with the +/- 5V scaling. Why does Moog do this? Well, Moog has a habit of being in their own "zone"...and in this case, it's the CVs that are the issue. Just be glad it's not the atrocity of the old Moog S-trig bus!
-- Lugia

Sorry I forgot to precise both moigs are not in cases, I have both in the dedicate 'stand'

My case is an arturia rackbrute 3u, 88hp.
I save money for a the 6u, 2x 88hp.

I don't really use the moogs Vco, but yes I forgot, I do random with the subharmonicon's VCO.

Though I've learn, a tip woth th 1v/oct conversion of the Moog. (not of the Mother 32) send the KB output of the mother 32 toa buffered multiple.

EDITED May 2nd 2022, 12:53