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FYI you can fit deeper modules in any skiff or case by using standoffs. You can get packs of hundreds of them in different lengths from places like Amazon for about $15. You screw the standoff into the slot and then screw the module in via a thread in the standoff. I like the brass ones as the nylon ones can break too easily.

That would free you up to choose any 2hp (brand) module. Maybe the mixer would be a good match as you don’t seem to have one.

I've been scratching my head for a 2hp module to fill out this case and thought I'd put it out there to try and gather some inspiration. This won't be the end of my rack as things will get inevitably expanded on but I just wanted to get this space filled for now and I'm interested to hear what others may suggest.

note: its a Moog skiff so can only handle up to about 45mm depth (so I'm told).

thanks

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Soundspaces No:1 album consists of some recordings I recorded between 2005 and 2012. It was an album of sessions where I experimented with synthesizers, modules, electronic circuits, sounds and electricity. I used instruments-equipment mainly analog and mostly hardware. The things I do by playing the sequencer and keyboards or by programming them with the sequencer. The music consists of 3-4 channels at most, and it consists of recordings that I have recorded on a computer as stereo tracks or as a maximum of 3 channels. I made the mix completely analog with outboards. After recording it on the computer, I completed the album with an analog-digital hybrid mastering process between the tracks.The songs on this album are not exactly music in song form. They're more like recordings of a scene, a soundscape, an ambiance, a moment. It's more like a sound design. Yes :) I think it still consists of quite musical sounds. Maybe there will be a 2nd or 3rd album of this concept over the years. I am happy to share Soundscape No:1 with you now. I hope you enjoy listening to the album.

Patch 43 (A jamsession with DPO, a complex Buchla style oscillator)
Patch 44 (A Generative patch made completely with a sequencer and random CV's and logic's)
Patch 23 (Ambient, random CVs, and many envelopes and lfos are made by sequentially connecting each other. I used an arpeggiator to randomly select the notes. Although the main structure of the tissue comes from analog oscillators, a digital resonator and granular synthesis is the most characteristic sound of this patch)
Patch 29 ((Made with NI Reaktor and an analog system. Random sequencers and logics are used. Processed with noise, granular and glitches. A generative IDM style patch)
Patch 19 (Patch made with a resonator, granular, and different LPG)
Patch 24 (Analog drums made with random sequencers, analog synths, drum layers blended with resonator, a subtractive lead and finally a texture with granular)
Patch 54 (A random generative patch made using through-zero FM synthesis with multiple Vaemi Osi-Ops and Vintage Function Generator and granular synthesis)
Patch 51 (A 6 channel drum machine based on 8 bit sampling that we made ourselves. There are drums processed with granular synthesis and resonator. To play the drums, I used logics of our own designs, modules such as clock divider, shift register, gate combiner)
Patch 53 (A random-generative patch. Made using samplings from Phase Plant and the Vaemi Osi-Op + Elektron Machine Drum FM synthesis section. For formants, I have created many groups of analog and digital formant filters. Granular, on the other hand, is in charge as usual to support the fluency and variability of the sounds)
Patch 32 (A Granular Sampler player to create a Drone Synthesis by sampling a 1-second symphony orchestra, scanning the sample and processing it with granular)
Patch 20 (Electron Machine Drum + Vermona DRM1 + Resonator + Subtractive A patch programmed with 2 separate voices. Granular synthesis is again in the task of creating textures)
Patch 47 (A generative patch made with Vaemi El-Ma Orsted, recording electromagnetic waves, sampling, and processing with granular and filters)

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EDITED Mar 27th 2023, 20:09

For now I´m not sure about it, I´d need a small case (2 x 60hp) and the Mantis is too much big for me.

Why? It's usually considered to be a waste of money re-housing semi-modulars in eurorack cases >

I've patched my Moog semi-modulars a lot more, using different applications and mostly better when they're inside my eurorack case. Yes you need to rack 'em, need the space and power... but it makes it a lot easier to integrate them in your setup. When you're ready to go fully modular, you can always put them back in the original case.

EDITED Mar 27th 2023, 13:12

Why? It's usually considered to be a waste of money re-housing semi-modulars in eurorack cases - you are paying twice for both case and power!!! which is something you already paid for when you bought them

That´s true, I never wanted to be into modular, but when the QS arrived I saw that it lacks a power switch and that made me start to think about having both in a case, maybe it´s not the best idea as you say.

maybe a switched power strip is a simpler and cheaper solution for that issue...

you will need a power supply - this one is designed to connect to a busboard so you would need one of those as well - see the description of the module - there are others designed to use flying busboards (ribbon cables with headers on them) but these can potentially introduce noise - but rack warts (power modules) take space in your case which is better used for actual modules - so cases with power inlets mounted elsewhere are preferable

do you need an output module? maybe - what are you considering sending the output to?

I barely understand the module descriptions, that´s another reason why maybe I shouldn´t do it. I thought an output could be nice to have a quick control over their output levels.

In that case you need to do a lot more research before spending money... go to modwiggler.com and read the stickies in the 3u and 1u subforum - watch some videos, read some newbie threads, read up on module descriptions & ask more questions

Why? It's usually considered to be a waste of money re-housing semi-modulars in eurorack cases - you are paying twice for both case and power!!! which is something you already paid for when you bought them

That´s true, I never wanted to be into modular, but when the QS arrived I saw that it lacks a power switch and that made me start to think about having both in a case, maybe it´s not the best idea as you say.

you will need a power supply - this one is designed to connect to a busboard so you would need one of those as well - see the description of the module - there are others designed to use flying busboards (ribbon cables with headers on them) but these can potentially introduce noise - but rack warts (power modules) take space in your case which is better used for actual modules - so cases with power inlets mounted elsewhere are preferable

do you need an output module? maybe - what are you considering sending the output to?

I barely understand the module descriptions, that´s another reason why maybe I shouldn´t do it. I thought an output could be nice to have a quick control over their output levels.

Hi,

I´m thinking about racking my DFAM and Quadrantid Swarm but I know nothing about Eurorack.

Why? It's usually considered to be a waste of money re-housing semi-modulars in eurorack cases - you are paying twice for both case and power!!! which is something you already paid for when you bought them

• I think I´d need a power module and an output module, will these work?

you will need a power supply - this one is designed to connect to a busboard so you would need one of those as well - see the description of the module - there are others designed to use flying busboards (ribbon cables with headers on them) but these can potentially introduce noise - but rack warts (power modules) take space in your case which is better used for actual modules - so cases with power inlets mounted elsewhere are preferable

do you need an output module? maybe - what are you considering sending the output to?

• Do I have to take anything in mind?

you will want more modules sooner or later - at the very least an appropriate end of chain mixer, some extra modulation, effects and utilities will probably be handy too

• Which other modules would be a good complement for this setup?

see above

• How can I find an angled case for this? I can´t find any...

the tiptop mantis is a very popular case that is angled and is one of the better cases in terms of size/cost/power & manufacturer reputation - and is often recommended to beginners as it's not that big but will allow room for expansion and is quite portable

Thanks!

and now with the actual link!!!

Hi,

I´m thinking about racking my DFAM and Quadrantid Swarm but I know nothing about Eurorack. Please help me with this questions:

• I think I´d need a power module and an output module, will these work?
• Do I have to take anything in mind?
• Which other modules would be a good complement for this setup?
• How can I find an angled case for this? I can´t find any...

Thanks!

https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_2210452.jpg

EDITED Mar 27th 2023, 11:47

Realy nice Raaf love the way you incorporated those bird sounds!

Hey community, sorry, this one is for the french speakers.
J'ai traduit le manuel du 6equencer en français, c'est quasi un clone (nombre de pages, design etc..)
téléchargement : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NqzEDlsKhF8lzIYv6qNmLoa55v-M44uy/view?usp=share_link

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EDITED Jul 8th 2023, 16:22

Hey community, sorry, this one is for the french speakers.
J'ai traduit le manuel de Pizza en français, c'est quasi un clone (nombre de pages, design etc..)
téléchargement : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eDDjbUD39TAy15b-Yb4yKkUNLM1akUqH/view?usp=share_link

Hey community, sorry, this one is for the french speakers.
J'ai traduit le manuel du Chord en français, c'est quasi un clone (nombre de pages, design etc..)
téléchargement : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1g07wGGH34bTC98qzAGhGTkaIhVvBbR8u/view?usp=share_link

Hey community, sorry, this one is for the french speakers.
J'ai traduit le manuel du Data Bender en français, c'est quasi un clone (nombre de pages, design etc..)
téléchargement : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Mhk6q-eScDqhVR0hRn7fwoWyB2gFNvw0/view?usp=share_link

If you're in Europe and don't mind a silver faceplate, SchneidersLaden is currently offering a 9.71% discount on this ‘paleface’ version.
(A piece of information that will probably conjure up things for @wishbonebrewery ;)
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/forum/posts/index/12056

I find mine really useful, great for little Acid lines when you get the envelop-out so you can tweak the filter along with adding an Accent pattern, works from triggers or CV as a standard VCA too.

Not quite Javelin, but check Patching Panda's Punch.
-- wishbonebrewery

Great idea, thanks!

Not quite Javelin, but check Patching Panda's Punch.

Looking for a good envelope like javelin with an accent in and a VCA.

EDITED Mar 26th 2023, 21:03

Vector-Wave synth kit from RYK Modular build and demo.
This is an all-in-one synth module with VCOs, LFOs, envelopes, filters, MIDI mods, and so on. A very deep unit, you should probably check their demo video after mine if you like it.
Not the easiest build. While all the surface mount parts are already installed, the solder pads for the LED matrix, jacks and buttons are VERY close to the surface mount parts, you need to be VERY careful with your soldering to not touch or short to those. The unit would benefit from more space.
Powerful unit as an all-in-one.

Build

So, if I understood correctly, through a power supply it is not possible that the AC current arrives inside the case?

most cases are DC powered - similar to a laptop - in fact some power supplies actually use laptop bricks for converting AC mains power to DC +/- 12v and +5v

some such as doepfer are mains AC powered (using a 'kettle lead' for example - like a lot of synthesizers)

a few use AC converters to supply 12-15v AC (most likely with eurorack 12v to an internal power supply which will convert to +/-12v and possibly 5v) - as far as I know the only ones that do this are some Frequenct Central supplies)

For sure, tubes are more dangerous, but I don't plan to buy modules with tubes insides

usually the tubes won't be on the inside, they'll be on the outside - to show off... not many modules use regular tubes though! I suspect the newer korg nano-tubes are less dangerous - but probably better safe than sorry!

so is your idea to use this for processing an acoustic drum kit?

I think it might be a good idea to start with a single channel, add some effects and then add channels...

so there seems to be stuff missing - filters, effects, modulation sources, utilities that are needed to get the best out of them...

take a look at my signature - substitute mic input for sound source and spend a decent amount of time thinking long and hard about it...

also spend at least the same time thinking about using a regular outboard mixer and some effects pedals and or rack effects... or a multi-channel audio interface and a laptop - both will get you most of the way to where you appear to want to go for a lot less money...

Left to Right :

Input Module Befaco Insrtument Interface V2
- is a v fleshed out interface module, Phantom Pwr for Mics, Sliders for attack and decay of envelope follower, gain, threshold for triggering envelope, inverted envelope out, its a little pricy but FULLY featured. it will be vital to getting CV signals out from drum hits and audio in from Mics.
So
IF
you want to have acoustic drums mixed into FX (delay, filter, phaser, bitcrush etc) AND have said mic's signal produce a Controlled Voltage Envelope, which can then be used to modulate a desiered parameter in the system then this module will be the gate way. So just 1 to start, 3 at fin? good to keep that in mind, 2 def, but three depends on goal and level of dependance on external mic for system control.

Next UP:

Ya Boi Sound Scraper,
It takes 5v so you NEED TO READ UP ON 5V AND DOEPFER A100 5V CONVERTER, but he wild so net to him is a filter to tame, Envelope, trig rev env from Beface InputV2 can be used to treat sound scraper as an instrument struk from befaco which in turn has been struk from Mic which was presumably struck by you. Again just pointing out this direction is SANS sequencer, as you and the striking and mics are all apart of using the synth. aside from Sound scraper Droning and filtering, LFO madness, etc.

EDITED Mar 25th 2023, 20:34

My new jam is online. I used a fieldrecording of jackdaws made by a good friend as the basis and inspiration for this jam. I hope you will enjoy it!

So even if there were some leakage the amount of voltage to start with is so low that I doubt there would be an appreciable risk.

So, if I understood correctly, through a power supply it is not possible that the AC current arrives inside the case?

The best way to reduce the risk of any sort of leakage current would be to use a metal case and make sure the case is grounded. The location of the power supply (internal or external) shouldn't matter so long as it is properly grounded. And as a general rule, don't cheap out on the power supply.

There is a good centralized and certified grounding system in the building where I live

The one exception you might want to be careful about are modules involving tubes. Some tubes involve quite high voltages, sometimes a few hundred volts, and that is obviously a greater risk.

For sure, tubes are more dangerous, but I don't plan to buy modules with tubes insides

Thanks Replicant!

Hi,

I have the same problem here with a combo of 2 6u rackbrute. Did you solve your problem ?

Thanks,

I am a happy owner of this very cool Aikido master. Here a few creative patches :

Another patch test from my lil' rack ... I've been putting everything thru their paces, doing deep dives into manuals, finding sweet interactions between units, and generally building up a personal toolbox of patching skills from scratch.

Here's what things are sounding like after 6-8 weeks of euroracking:

https://on.soundcloud.com/Jsq4M

First half is just a jaunty jam, second half cranks up the 266t for some stop-and-start drum stuff.

Bass drum is from the Dixie II+, high hat and snares I'm pulling from the white noise output of the 266t (multed).

Plaits as main synth voice.

I always welcome constructive criticism, lay it on me! :)

Thanks so much for reading, looking, listening, & and feedback!

EDITED Mar 24th 2023, 18:43

Thanks for sharing! :)

I personally really enjoy the visuals to your videos. :)

I don't feel they distract from the music at all. In fact, in the second video's case, I'd argue it adds to the music.

Good work!

Smart communication and fine transaction with @Marb
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The first track: a lovely hazy, minimalist ballad.
The second (my favourite): a static contemplation with very interesting, dusty and grating sounds. However I ended up listening to it without watching the video too tiring to my eyes.

Both pieces are like little sound paintings. Hence this recurring question, and which is asked in general. Doesn't the image harm the music a bit too much these days? I think it prevents us from seeing what the sound, the music, is telling us... and it leads the ear to become lazy.

As I recently wrote in Mod Wiggler: ‘I am not afraid of YouTube images but of the laziness of the public’.

My reflection should not make us forget that you have done a good job :)

Good communication, tracked shipping and good packaging from @thepinkgrapefruit.

A few things that you might consider:

1. Are you using the same module and/or audio output jacks when using either the monitors or headphones? If different, then perhaps it could be the module or specific jack being used for headphones. Some modules are just noisier than others, and unfortunately jacks can get worn out or damaged too.
2. Is the same thing happening with different headphones? I recently had a noise issue with a pair of headphones, and then discovered that the 3.5mm to 1/4" adapter I was using on the headphone cable simply wasn't attached properly. My own fault, in other words.
3. You could try using a linear power conditioner to reduce the noise.
4. Do your bus boards have noise filtering circuits built into them?

Some of those may be less expensive to try out in comparison to replacing the power supply.

If you determine that it isn't the output module/jack or a specific pair of headphones, I would look into getting a power conditioner first, as that will probably be useful to have around at some point, even if it doesn't solve this particular noise problem. Intuitively, I also think that using a linear power conditioner would produce a similar result to switching to a linear PSU, but admittedly, I'm not an expert on these things by any means, and I very well could be wrong about that assumption.

Noise filtering bus boards would probably be less expensive than a new power supply, but also wouldn't necessarily fix the problem. I would recommend looking into getting some of those (if you aren't already using some with the power supply in question) if you think that a particular module is producing the noise or causing interference with other modules on the same power supply.

I don't have any experience with Meanwell power supplies, so I can't comment on any particularities of those.

I hope that some of that might help!

I'm not sure it's accurate to call this a bug, but it is an error.

The Doepfer A-135-4A mixer requires the A-135-4B control panel. In fact they are sold together as a pair. However, each one shows as full price. So if you put both units in a rack the price ends up being counted twice.

Howdy everyone, new user here.
I do not have any specific knowledge of pacemakers but I do have electrical engineering experience. In my opinion the risk of harm from things like AC leakage, RF or magnetic interference, etc, from Modular is extremely low compared to the average home appliance. AC leakage, when present, is a percentage of the working voltage of a circuit. The voltages in modular are very low, no more than 15 volts and commonly only +/- 5V. So even if there were some leakage the amount of voltage to start with is so low that I doubt there would be an appreciable risk. You being around something as mundane as the 120V AC wiring in the walls or an extension cord exposes you to stronger magnetic fields than a modular rack running on 12V DC and pushing tiny audio signals around. People play electric guitars with pacemakers, and that involves holding the strings and the pickups right next to your chest while you touch the metal strings and that is generally regarded as safe.

The best way to reduce the risk of any sort of leakage current would be to use a metal case and make sure the case is grounded. The location of the power supply (internal or external) shouldn't matter so long as it is properly grounded. And as a general rule, don't cheap out on the power supply.

The one exception you might want to be careful about are modules involving tubes. Some tubes involve quite high voltages, sometimes a few hundred volts, and that is obviously a greater risk.

I seem to love to pair up these two. Here's a couple of recent instances featuring the RYK Vector Wave and the Resonator algorithm on the Disting Ex. Some patch info in the video descriptions. Thank you for watching.

Lately I tried out a Sovage Engineering Faille Temporelle, and while being also a very cool analog-ish delay with plenty of distortion available on tap, I missed a bit the ability to tap tempo and stereo i/o. Yester kind of cover the stuff I liked on the Faille Temporelle, it is less wild and but more controllable/predictable.
When compared to the Melotus and Imitor, Yester is very straight forward to use (I always had a bit on a headache to understand how MV and IV work, and how to use these for more conventional delay duties). Electus is also amazing and huge sounding, but it still has the tendency to go into reverb, since the base DNA is from the Desmodus.

The only things I would like to be different on YV are (but I close an eye about these):
- capability to self-oscillate (it does a tiny bit with the right settings, but it's not wild as a BBD delay)
- the Wavefold-distortion placed after the filter Tone. It can be a bit harsh sometimes.

Hey!

I have noise problems in my rack. It's okay on studio monitors, but I hear that hum when using headphones. I have a cheap PSU now - Meanwell RT65B x2 - and decent bus boards.
Will a PSU upgrade change something? I was considering the Doepfer A-100PSU3 linear PSU. Any experiences?

My Rack:

Great find, and great demo! I have 2 Versios but I'm really stuck on the Electus firmware. I tried most others and Ruina is nice but gets little use after I got my first tube overdrive (Frequency Central Thermo Nuclear). I recently tried Desmodus again and was quite disappointed. This one sounds like a great addition to the Versio series.

Thank you very much Cédric,

Very kind of you to have taken the time to detail all this.

I am actually using a Mimetic Digitalis (with Lapsus OS) and really like it.
Hoping for a Voltage Block to restock as it is impossible to find one.
Really appreciate all the tips as I am only starting with modular.
Having a blast :)

Best,
Olivier

You're welcome !

The exact connection would be :
Sub out > VCA signal in
EG out > VCA CV in
VCA signal out > mixer

(You Can also find EG with integrated VCAS, like WMD Javelin, Cosmotronic Delta V, or the latest 4ms that looks dope !!)

You'll also need a trigger or a gate to start the enveloppe.

The role of the function generator here is to modulate the amplification of the audio signal going into the VCA.
Imagine a volume curve if you like.
Once the enveloppe is not triggered (sequencer stopped) your volume will stay to zero.
It's also interresting to put a low pass filter (vcf) between VCA and mixer.
Then you can modulate the filter with the same enveloppe (with a multiple) to give more dynamics to your bass sound ! :)

Hope it's clear, it's one of the tricks, but some folks here could give you many others.
I'm not a modular expert :)

I highly recommand voltage block ! ^^
Mimetic Digitalis is a very good option too, in reduced spaces.

Best,
Cédric

Hi Cédric,

Thanks a lot for your help. I was expecting it to be this.

When you say "You have to pass it thru an enveloppe + VCA combo", could you detail the actual connection?
Should I just output the sub OUT to an EG (I have a pip slope mk2 at the moment) through its gate or trigger?
And then to the VCA?

Thank you very much for the help, much appreciated.

Had a glance at your 416 rack and there is a lot of the same I am looking at (Voltage Block for instance).

Best,
Olivier

Hi,
Sounds like a normal behaviour for me.
The sub out of the Osiris acts like a classic VCO and not like a synth voice : it's playing the sound continuously and is not affected by the decay knob.

You have to pass it thru an enveloppe + VCA combo.

Cheers,
Cédric