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Just listened to it all while playing with cat toys with our cat :) The cat says she enjoyed it.... Good stuff.

Yeah, I could go via my own Yamaha Mixer.
And yeah the LH side would be having the FX Aid at the end of line but I guess it would be better before with a mult. The RH side is infinity more capable but a load of modules for a load of money.

The Patch out on the LH is self-contained.

Believe it or not there is method in my madness, My hope was that someone may show me their examples of their stages to output so I can learn a bit from others.
RH side would have the ability to split signals, route stereo, Pan mono, mute, effect and then double back on ts self for an feedback loop arund the effects.
LH side, relatively minimal patching ability but CV control, yet Mix and output with monitoring all in one module.

I could leave out the level meters so it doesn't look like a Christmas tree ;-)

https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_1105457.jpg

Left Hand Side or Right Hand Side??? The Left is probably a load cheaper!!

The ability to come out in stereo with some final effects and maybe have the ability to set up some effects loops (Feedback loops) to come back into the mix.

I've started out my modular journey with a fair amount of 2hp Modules, they really are very good but to sensibly use them when mounted in a rack you need to give them a minimum of 2-3hp blank space between them so you can tweak a knob that is right next to a patch lead jack... unless you have some type of Uber-Chopsticks-Skillz!

I'll still be buying more 2hp gear but I will focus on modules with a 3hp or larger size from now on so things are actually usable, I'm not sure how the recently announced Lunch Boxes from 2hp modular will be usable without a load of blank panels https://images.app.goo.gl/TytFVdND3qBGhqa28 But yeah, loads of love for the 2hp gear still.

btw.... that SD card slot in the Disting.... Have a paid of Tweezers on Standby!! ;-)

EDITED Jan 18th 2020, 09:34

Good :)

But its OK to do if...?

You simply enjoy it.
You like the experimentation.
You occasionally make something that sounds good.
You can cope that you can never get back to that ace patch you did a while back.
You sell other things in your life that you don't use to fund your modular.
You can cope with not buying everything at once.
....and you don't have to be good at something to enjoy it.

Cheers Guys...

A quad VCA is on my wish list (either Veils or Blinds), I must say I like a few of the dual VCA though from Frequency Central or Eectrosmith, skinny enough to dot around a system close to what they will mainly be used on.

So with Maths, can you shoot it 4 separate triggers and get 4 separate envelopes?

I can see two ways of thinking about this...
I currently have the WMD SSF ADSRVCA which I'm really liking, is this a good enough reason to buy more of them or is it better / more interesting with varied possibilities to buy things like the Befaco ADSR, Instruo Ceis, Intelegel Dual ADSR, Qu-bit Contour etc etc??? (Think exactly the same question for VCAs)

For the Befaco I'll probably do the DIY, Instruo looks pretty similar to the befaco then there is the Intellijel Dual ADSR which I really like the idea of as its based around the SH101, I used to own the Roland MC202.

I don't really have intentions to ever own a wall of Synth so maybe sticking with the WMD SSF ADSRVCA is the way to go, I'm also interested in something with a long cycle time.

I replied without RTFM! :)

btw, Defrag... your tracks are very film score-esque, some dark and foreboding stuff :)

Eventually when I've bought a few more modules I want to fire the 2hp bell off via a Befaco Burst as a one-shot of notes via a 2hp ARP, so hope for a flurry of notes that can be fired off with just one slowly clocked trigger.
I'm assuming A-2 on the Disting is like a Clock Multiplier?

The -Envelope from the ADSRVCA is modulating the speed of sample playback and there's 2hp action from Pluck and Bell along with some subtle Vowel, Erica Pico DSP and 2hp Verb on effects duty.

Sounding good :)

Nice tune too ;-)

Hi Garfield,

I've had a bit of a play with the sample modes, with my current rack setup there is some entertainment to be had with having a long sample set then triggering the ADSR to play snippets of the audio along with the other sequenced parts. I've got some old shortwave radio recordings, weather reports and the ubiquitous Moon-Landing samples, plenty of scope for fun. I need to dive into the sample playing abilities a bit deeper, the thing I note straight away is that the more samples you have loaded the harder it is to scroll through them with the limited range knob as its VERY fine adjustments.

I can get the SD card in with my fingers/finger nail but its never going to come out without tweezers :)

:)

I've just got my SD card.... you need to order a pair of Tweezers to go with it, and I don't particularly have fat fingers.

I'm enjoying the throw-away-ness of it all, pull all the patch leads and re-patch and find something completely different.... then mostly forget how to do the bits that were cool in the last patch straight way!!

Cheers, its a bit basic.
The good thing about not having much money to spend on Modular is that each new Module gets a damn good play with before the next one arrives.

Melodic sort of thing

With this rack
https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_976055.jpg

The 3 page manual link

3 page manual, this site seemes to strip the underscores

wow, thanks defragmenteur.

The first link looks like it may make things easier but the bottom link, copied and pasted into a browser doesn't work.

Hi Diego, Yes, thats us :) I think we scared our drinking-customers a bit but I enjoyed it ;-)

The Clockable effects and LFO are probably going to get used, I miss having all the direct control knobs for instant tweaking.

Hello Garfield.
I've been keeping dipping into it and the manual, I never knew I could fall out with a piece if gear so fast!

I think the VCO bits are the most usable for me at the moment, then there is the bit about using single-cycle .wav files for the Pulsar VCO and Wavetable VCO (SD card needed).

I guess you could say that, as a beginner at modular, the Manual could have an easy to understand explanation of each menu function, with 109 pages in the manual already a little more less-techie info wouldn't be missed.

EDITED Dec 21st 2019, 09:43

I've just got the Disting Mk4 and now i know why i was trying to avoid menu-based modules. I'm hoping there is going to be something in there that i can experiment with but right now I feel like the manual is like some weird form of algebra, and i could have spent my money on something i would have enjoyed straight out of the box rather than Click-Twist-click-twist-check the manual, plug-unplug-check the manual!

I shall persevere, but leave this expletive here Fckngmenus

Some time later
I have an SD card turning up soon for this so I can play with the sample playback stuff.
My current feelings are that I would get better use (Fun) out of a Ping-able LFO and a Radio Music :)

EDITED Dec 19th 2019, 21:57

Cheers for the suggestions, Temps Utile was suggested in another thread and it looks like a whole lot of fun :)

Got it! Thanks
4ms things are also on the Wish-list.

I've just been told over on FB that, as i kind of suspected, the Befaco Burst will do a 1-shot burst from a single pulse/ping/thing!

Cheers guys...
Someone over on the FB Eurorack group suggested the Qu-Bit Pulsar, this might be a thing as i think it will do a 1-shot burst of gates from a single pulse rather like hitting its Burst button.
The X7 idea is great though, for the moment the Pulsar is probably a little way off in my plan for buying modules. I'm mostly thinking smaller and cheaper at the moment.
So could a Divided by 16/32/64 Clock Pulse - Clock a Multiplier to trigger that flurry of Sequencer notes? Or would the Clock already be so slow in tempo that the Multiplier would be too slow?! I need a calculator to work this out!!

A module that you send a clock trigger to once and it spits out a bunch of gates in a pre-determined sequence.
This is me assuming that most sequencer modules will advance 1-step for every clock trigger and not act like a 1-shot sample or triggering off a full sequence of say 16 steps.

Am a talking about a Burst Module?

Cheers for any pointers.

Seeing as you are all talking about the different methods of making music....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Jeck

Thanks, the Temps Utile certainly ticks a few boxes. I have so far been staying away from menu-driven things, though I do realise I'm thinking of the Disting!!
I'm getting along fine with my Pittsburgh MicroSequence, with the direction on Random with possibility of a rest for gates and clock, then I'm using the pitch as modulation mostly.

*edit, Just grabbed a 2hp Div cheap on ebay so that might be my clock multiplying needs filled for the moment.

EDITED Nov 24th 2019, 13:05

So far I'm pretty happy with where I've got to with the modules I've bought, my next purchase thoughts are around the following:
Expert Sleepers Disting Mk4
Noise Engineering Clep Diaz
2hp Arp
2hp RND
Happy Nerding FX Aid
Also need a Clock Multiplier

Or
Monsoon (NI Clouds Clone)

I need a bit more Random going into the Turing Machine, I feel I need a slow clock as the main clock with Multiplier for the lighter jingly/twinkly bits, a Clouds Clone and/or more effects for some textural washes of sound to go around what I already have (and derived from what I already have).

EDITED Nov 21st 2019, 22:01

yep, each 'String' on a guitar (for instance) keeps resonating after being plucked, so one String can be played at a time but the decay of that string rings on into the others.

The 2hp Bell works in a similar way but has 6 voice polyphony, though each bell-strike can have quite a bit of a different resonance to the last, kinda de-tuned.

EDITED Nov 10th 2019, 09:21

I built an AT AT AT from Thonk, got two channels for Audio and one for tweaking pitch CV.

You are too kind, thanks

The Tendrils patch leads are doing a fine job of giving more room in this compact rack.

Here's a Pluck + DSP + Verb thing with the Pittsburgh MicroSequence.

hey :) Cheers for that.... :)

I feel like I may have started a 3-row eurorack adventure, I'm really happy with what I've got out of 1 row so far but rows 2 & 3 are going to be really interesting / probably confusing!

EDITED Oct 1st 2019, 17:57

Thanks for the advice on here, i kind of forged my own path too with a bit of a vision.
Using this rack: (MI Links just ordered so not actually in the rack yet)
(I've not posted the screenshot as it showing a totally mixed up to what it looks like in reality.
I made this:
Youtube

That looks quite a thing, cheers :)

Thanks for all that... Both!!
So maybe something like this https://www.thonk.co.uk/shop/cascade/ ?

Hello :)

*In my grand plan I have a Mutable Blinds on my shopping list for the 4 VCAs. (But....)

There have been a massive amount of great points covered in my other thread so thanks all :)

Specifically here I'm thinking of the output from the 2hp Pluck, its loud, and by the time it reaches the Intellijel MixUp its really easy to take into a crackle of overdrive. So I assume something like a Passive Attenuator (maybe the AT-AT-AT DIY as a first project) or something similar would be good inline to to tame the output before it goes onto the Mixup.

And where would the best place to attenuate be? Straight after the 2hp Pluck or after its been through the Reverb? (I assume straight after just to trim it back a touch)

Cheers

Budget is pretty non-existent to be honest.... it will be slow progress. I'm going to dig around in the attic and see what i can sell on ebay to fund this new addiction.

Hi Ronin1973..... looks like you are vaguely my age, i.e. not feeling old but beginning to feel broken in various places!!

I've got a plan, its evolved a little as I've discovered what I can do with the limited bits I've been able to purchase so far, I'd say that I'm 2 purchases away from buying a Mutable Blinds (for the Quad VCA / attenuverter).
Funnily enough I have my 2hp modules spaced apart by 2hp as it takes about 30 seconds of knob twiddling to realise that a rack of 2hps right next to each other is about as stupid and unusable as it gets, though the features of the 2hp do seem to make them look more appealing to similarly priced but more-hp modules so i keep circling back to the idea of 2hp.

Next up 2hp Bell and a Pittsburgh Modular Micro Sequence... then the VCA's and LFO's and maybe something like the Noise Engineering Sinc Defero Buffered Quad.
I love the 'look' of the Happy Nerding Mutes too but I don't see me having a use for it yet until I have more voices in my rack ;-)

Cheers :)

Cheers guys :) Very helpful.

Probably an obvious question, is there a limit on how many clock dividers you could link up, so say you come out of the Div by 8 then that went into the Clk of another Clock divider and you divided the 8 from the first by 16.... you get the idea, then you go on and on!!

I'm guessing the answer is Yes, so its a way of pushing events further away via clock pulses.

thanks....
The mention of Rebirth and Reason is a way of saying I've been messing around with music from the mid/late 90's, I never hinted that they would be of any benefit to starting Modular. They are certainly not detrimental.

I've already been doing the VCV thing as it seemed sensible before I bought anything, and its shown me that I don't want an all-singing-all-dancing module, I'd agree with darkblooCV above that simple is best.

First off I wanted to ensure I had some Stereo Output so the Intellijel Mixup, then 2hp verb cos thats stereo too so I can get a bit of simple stereo field from the limited cash and modules, Pluck makes some lovely sound so I want that to be able to spit out something vaguely ordered (2hp Euclid, I can currently trig the Euclid from TR08/09 and use Pitch CV for notes from the SH01 and have it play along in the fills), eventually Quantised with a 2hp Tune and then push that through a bit of reverb and delay (delay will be Erica Pico DSP).

At this point its simply adding a new voice to the mix with the Roland Boutiques.

Then the plan after that is to start looking at Clocking, Clock Dividers, Mults, VCA/s, LFO, maybe a Random Gate source again another 2hp, then a couple more voices and how to start bringing it all together Like you say, the important-yet-boring. Power-wise it looks like the TipTop uZeus will have me covered with the addition of another Flying bus cable for the moment.

I'll go back and edit my dumb-ass question at the start and just say 'hi' instead;-)

Sounds pretty good advice, I'll restrain myself on eBay! (even if some stuff is what i want to end up with eventually)
the 2hp Pluck, Bell and Vowel are all full voice modules, I think these sounds get me fairly close to where I want to be, I've atched enough Youtube vids to think so at least.

Cheers

Here you go...
Its a work in progress, the stuff to the RH side finishing at the TM is whats in my rack now, the oher bits are waiting for spare funds etc
https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_976055.jpg